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[–] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I know this is a rhetorical question. Still.

    Maybe childhood as turtle answered, but also before this whole US downturn with openly proven criminals and still nothing happened.

    From outside of the US it started for me with the impeachment of Trump.

    He's not the first of course. But before that at least an effort was put into the appearance.

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