▲ 55 ▼ How dark web agent spotted bedroom wall clue to rescue girl from abuse (www.bbc.co.uk) submitted 8 months ago by digdilem@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] MolochHorridus@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago (7 children) Again, fuck Meta/Facebook for not helping. permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago The fact they'll eagerly help oppress people, but not one of the few times the authorities are doing something decent, tells you everything you need to know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (4 children) I mean, I can see a case for not wanting to play dragnet at a mere request. You don't want any random guy and/or agency to be able to have you to help them track down someone they only have a picture of, no matter how much they pinkie swear they're doing it to protect that person. That's getting awfully close to sharing PII. You generally want to see a subpoena for this stuff and with good reason. Meta are, oddly enough, not being actively scummy here. (One can of course argue about all the other times when they don't give a shit; the bigger picture is definitely super scummy. But for this in isolation they actually have a valid reason for their behavior.) What might work would be a standardized, streamlined process where the police can ask the company and if the company says the request is reasonable they can apply for an expedited subpoena to allow legal access to the information. Agreement by both would be necessary to give more opportunities for due diligence. This process would also have to have a very limited scope in order to make abuse harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (2 children) Great argument, except Meta and several other companies have willingly shared data with ICE to help with arrests. But I agree, these things should be taken care of with a warrant (or similar) with a defined scope. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago Yeah, that's what I meant with the bigger picture. They have a valid reason to deny this request but they haven't denied other requests that they really should've. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 8 months ago And genocide protesters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Facebook shares that info for profit with no problem, why not do the same to actually help people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 8 months ago They’d find an address in seconds if the wall had a Palestine flag on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago The fact they'll eagerly help oppress people, but not one of the few times the authorities are doing something decent, tells you everything you need to know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (4 children) I mean, I can see a case for not wanting to play dragnet at a mere request. You don't want any random guy and/or agency to be able to have you to help them track down someone they only have a picture of, no matter how much they pinkie swear they're doing it to protect that person. That's getting awfully close to sharing PII. You generally want to see a subpoena for this stuff and with good reason. Meta are, oddly enough, not being actively scummy here. (One can of course argue about all the other times when they don't give a shit; the bigger picture is definitely super scummy. But for this in isolation they actually have a valid reason for their behavior.) What might work would be a standardized, streamlined process where the police can ask the company and if the company says the request is reasonable they can apply for an expedited subpoena to allow legal access to the information. Agreement by both would be necessary to give more opportunities for due diligence. This process would also have to have a very limited scope in order to make abuse harder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (2 children) Great argument, except Meta and several other companies have willingly shared data with ICE to help with arrests. But I agree, these things should be taken care of with a warrant (or similar) with a defined scope. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago Yeah, that's what I meant with the bigger picture. They have a valid reason to deny this request but they haven't denied other requests that they really should've. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 8 months ago And genocide protesters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Facebook shares that info for profit with no problem, why not do the same to actually help people? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (2 children) Great argument, except Meta and several other companies have willingly shared data with ICE to help with arrests. But I agree, these things should be taken care of with a warrant (or similar) with a defined scope. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago Yeah, that's what I meant with the bigger picture. They have a valid reason to deny this request but they haven't denied other requests that they really should've. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 point 8 months ago And genocide protesters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago Yeah, that's what I meant with the bigger picture. They have a valid reason to deny this request but they haven't denied other requests that they really should've. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Facebook shares that info for profit with no problem, why not do the same to actually help people? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 8 months ago They’d find an address in seconds if the wall had a Palestine flag on it. permalink fedilink source parent