▲ 352 ▼ Discord roll out global age verification system, including an "age inference" model that runs in the background (www.rockpapershotgun.com) submitted 9 months ago by scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech to c/technology@lemmy.world 57 comments fedilink hide all child comments We have another event that invites people over to our side!
[–] comador@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (8 children) Alternatives Revolt.chat (now https://stoat.chat/) Matrix.org cinny.in Rocket.chat mattermost.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) Keep in mind everyone that Stoat still doesn't currently protect it's users information and is centralized. It doesn't use encryption but it is very seamless. You can host your own Stoat instance but it doesn't communicate with the main one. The devs have said they plan to add more security features in the future yet still don't make it a priority. The host of Stoat should be able to see everyone's messages, including in DM's, due to the lack of E2E encryption. Once they add more security features I imagine they will be much more popular in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago In my view, security isn't a feature, it's a design choice. I have no ill wishes towards Stoat, but I've never seen a developer convincingly implement security after the fact. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* I see rocket chat is used by the US Army and Air Force. Not sure how secure that is. And Mattermost is used by the US Air Force and Space Force, so same issue permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* Teamspeak, Mumble? These were popular for gaming communities, not sure what happened to these apps permalink fedilink source parent [–] WormFood@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) I looked in stoat's issue tracker and there is an issue asking for video chat which is 5 years old and still open. Safe to say it's a dead project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quips@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago Matrix is mature enough, and has a better philosophy. Just the best choice atm. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nighed@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago If I understand correctly, they recently rebuilt all of the voice/video stuff. Video should be coming soon, it's more of a resourcing issue for their servers. I looked at self hosting, but it's a bit of a mess currently. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) Keep in mind everyone that Stoat still doesn't currently protect it's users information and is centralized. It doesn't use encryption but it is very seamless. You can host your own Stoat instance but it doesn't communicate with the main one. The devs have said they plan to add more security features in the future yet still don't make it a priority. The host of Stoat should be able to see everyone's messages, including in DM's, due to the lack of E2E encryption. Once they add more security features I imagine they will be much more popular in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago In my view, security isn't a feature, it's a design choice. I have no ill wishes towards Stoat, but I've never seen a developer convincingly implement security after the fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago In my view, security isn't a feature, it's a design choice. I have no ill wishes towards Stoat, but I've never seen a developer convincingly implement security after the fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* I see rocket chat is used by the US Army and Air Force. Not sure how secure that is. And Mattermost is used by the US Air Force and Space Force, so same issue permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* Teamspeak, Mumble? These were popular for gaming communities, not sure what happened to these apps permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WormFood@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) I looked in stoat's issue tracker and there is an issue asking for video chat which is 5 years old and still open. Safe to say it's a dead project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quips@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago Matrix is mature enough, and has a better philosophy. Just the best choice atm. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nighed@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago If I understand correctly, they recently rebuilt all of the voice/video stuff. Video should be coming soon, it's more of a resourcing issue for their servers. I looked at self hosting, but it's a bit of a mess currently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quips@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago Matrix is mature enough, and has a better philosophy. Just the best choice atm. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago If I understand correctly, they recently rebuilt all of the voice/video stuff. Video should be coming soon, it's more of a resourcing issue for their servers. I looked at self hosting, but it's a bit of a mess currently. permalink fedilink source parent