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How I imagine those crying "i tHouGHT StAr Trek WAs suPPosEd tO bE a UtOPia" (startrek.website)
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[–] 2 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Expects utopian society, only watches first episode. Ignores every instance where things aren’t utopian / breaks rules.

DS9 great example of non utopia. Shit TNG had a ton of examples of how Starfleet isn’t perfect and there’s still political bs.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    DS9 great example of non utopia.

    It's a great example of the struggles to achieve utopia and the decisions made in pursuit of those goals.

    Shit TNG had a ton of examples of how Starfleet isn’t perfect and there’s still political bs.

    Practically a running joke that every Starfleet Admiral is trash, sure.

    But they're typically described as contrary to the ideological underpinnings of Star Fleet, not agents within a system that rewards and reproduces corruption.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    It's a great example of the struggles to achieve utopia and the decisions made in pursuit of those goals.

    It’s exactly this sort of moral complexity and nuance that gave Star Trek its best stories.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    It’s a great example of the struggles to achieve utopia and the decisions made in pursuit of those goals.

    YOU BETRAYED YOUR UNIFORM.

    Mr Worf, gas that planet. If they don't evacuate in an hour, it's not my fault if they die in agony.

    If the ends justify the means, and you don't get the ends, you just have the means.

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