▲ 262 ▼ Founding Pedos (lemmy.ml) submitted 9 months ago by AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago That is effectively the case in history, and I don’t think OP is denying that, but the philosophical basis is more about individual human rights. I think OP is asking how Americans feel about how far from those ideals we have strayed, which is completely off the fucking map. For my part, I question the cost to society that prioritizing individual liberties like property rights has had, but I don’t think that capitalism itself is inextricably linked to “classical liberalism”, and Americans tend to insist that it is. It’s a confusion born out of ignorance and propaganda. The “Founding Fathers” were shit people, but the constitution as an evolution of enlightenment ideals is a pretty sound document, we just haven’t lived up to the doctrine. The same could be said about communism as practiced by authoritarian regimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago That is effectively the case in history, and I don’t think OP is denying that, but the philosophical basis is more about individual human rights. I think OP is asking how Americans feel about how far from those ideals we have strayed, which is completely off the fucking map. For my part, I question the cost to society that prioritizing individual liberties like property rights has had, but I don’t think that capitalism itself is inextricably linked to “classical liberalism”, and Americans tend to insist that it is. It’s a confusion born out of ignorance and propaganda. The “Founding Fathers” were shit people, but the constitution as an evolution of enlightenment ideals is a pretty sound document, we just haven’t lived up to the doctrine. The same could be said about communism as practiced by authoritarian regimes. permalink fedilink source parent