cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/10508286

(Stats that show boosting ICE funding is a bipartisan policy)

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[–] 58 points 9 months ago (13 children)

Who cares why people are protesting, as long as they are it's good?

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah. As I've seen someone else put it, "we're glad you're here" is far better than "what took you so long"

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Until they go back to brunch after electing Gavin Newsom.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    if somehow we make it all the way to a free and fair 2028 primary and gavin newsome is the nominee i will be a form of pissed you've never witnessed before. that dude is such a fuckin' unhelpful phonie. out here acting like Abigail Spanberger won Virginia because Virginians wanted neoliberalism. NO! Virginians already hated her when they voted for her, they only voted for her because the options offered were: ICE stays the same, or ICE gets way more violent. USW, UAW, and UMWA all refused to endorse her. Abigail Spanberger won despite not being liked, not because she was liked. but the DNC has refused to learn their lessons and eat their veggies for 18 years now. they took every losing lesson from Obama and jettisoned every winning lesson. ultimately, it comes down to that they are part of the conservative grift machine, but their grift is more subtle. the republican grift is to froth up anger and then demand money to go act on that anger. the democrat grift is to make money off losing.

    it makes me so mad how many democrats are looking at 2025 election results and going "see! we don't have to be more progressive. we just have to not be donald trump" and it's like… goddammit, that's been loser behavior since 2008 when the tea party tranformed the republican party.

    so anyway.

    in summation.

    fuck the liberal excellence brunch crowd. we won't get out of this thinking the crisis is over unless we get true systemic change, not just small trinkets

    https://tidal.com/track/449459951/u

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  • [–] 40 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    I never get the "we were doing it first" toxicity. Why should it matter why the newcomers were ignorant if they want to join the cause? Why create new enemies just to protect your "pure" reasons? That kind of separationism is exactly what keeps the ones you should focus on in power, and they want it that way. A divided resistance will fail.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Its the cop-in-your-brain, which is of course all of the propaganda of the fascists. This is exactly what they want, and their choice rhetoric has worked its way into the leftist spaces to an extent

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Because the majority of “leftists” are exclusively online and their entire lives revolve around internet points derived from having the best and purest ideologies

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Where do you think the majority of "rightists", "libertarians", and "liberals" are spending their time nowadays? The mall? Everybody is terminally online, apparently including you.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    True but my political existence actually isn’t and I do stuff irl

    Too many people just preach dramatic purity online and nothing else

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    yeah. for a lot of the attitudes i see on lemmy about how politics should work i'm like… where are you? i'm out in these streets and i don't see you. a lot of what people are calling for don't work until we have mass support and to have mass support we need people outside.

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