MotoAsh comments on ELI5 How is this legal? Doesn't the constitution give us the right to tell them piss off?

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Carrying it unloaded is stupid. They won't wait to see if you have ammo before lighting you up if it came to it. Why leave yourself actually defenseless and yet a far more obvious target?

No one is going to sympathise with your obituary. "Well he looked like a deadly threat, which cops have been legally allowed to murder for decades, but he wasn't actually a threat!"

"Fucking moron" would be the common reaction.

While ICE agents are pathetic cowards, pathetic cowards have murdered many, many people throughout history. Especially ones that look like a valid threat.

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[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 9 months ago* (5 children)

He's not doing whatever he can to not get murdered. He's doing whatever he can to expose ICE's hypocrisy and prove that they are the lawless murderers.

By not loading his weapon he has made it clear that there is no circumstance in which he would take another's life. Not even to defend his own.

Is he putting himself at grave risk? Yes. Absolutely.

Is there a way to accomplish the same thing without risk? No.

That man is a definitional hero.

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[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

Meh, a hero needs to be inarguably good at their intended goal. Anyone who doesn't already agree with him is going to call him a dumbass, and rightfully so.

Do not appear to be a threat while not actually being a threat. Period. It's almost as bad as being in danger while having zero defense.

You wouldn't celebrate someone taking a walk in the woods with an empty bear mace can. This guy is doing the same thing: Going in to danger against wild animals with no actual defense.

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[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

Bears are not monsters, and there are much better ways of mitigating their threat. ICE and Donald cannot be mitigated. They must be met with overwhelming force. If you don't have the option of overwhelming force, resort to subterfuge (if you are a hero).

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[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

This is a question of what happens during an attack. Not who is more likely to attack. For a bear, bear mace is an excellent choice. For ICE, if you already have a fucking gun, it being loaded is a first fucking step to that gun being useful at all.

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[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

is a first fucking step to that gun being useful at all.

Except you are not talking about the use he had in mind for the gun. There can be more than one use for a thing. As an example, here's a very useful car:

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[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 point 9 months ago*

Except that sign isn't sitting on a road. Walking around an area where bullets might fly with an empty gun is equivalent to sitting on the road with a car out of gas.

I don't care if you are holding a sign that says, "I should've gone electric!" while you're sitting there with your car out of gas... If you did it on purpose, that is stupid.

Again: Useless.

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