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lemm.ee dead (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28228514

website is up, you can see a handful of posts but you cannot login and mostly just errors out.

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[+] -9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There is going to need to be some centralization of some form for this to work. The fediverse is a mess right now but its such a good idea.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What, centralisation has the opposite effect. It makes things worse. Imagine lemmy.world shutting down (the biggest instance), lemmy would be fucked.

    Decentralisation is to be encouraged. So if an instance shuts down, it’s not the end of the world.

    Like how basically all lemm.ee communities were migrated.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    When I say centralization I don't mean letting a few control the many. This is what I mean.

    1. Figure out what the alternatives are for these sites we don't need several Twitter alternatives.

    2. Each site needs a front page, Accessible on the Fediverse front page. This allows people to easily make an account.

    3. There should be one main site which will be the largest instance, people can edit the UI to feel how they like, but we need to allow communities to grow big.

    4. To safe guard against point 3, fund the sites with 100s or thousands of co-equal owners. Say you get 5K people donating $5 a week to each site, they each get 1 stock or piece of the "company" and now it prevents a reddit or twitter situation.

    5. The final thing, we need Fediverse user accounts, where once you make an account on 1 site you are automatically signed up to all of them and anyone can follow/subscribe and follow on all platforms, leading to a more cohesive biome

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
    1. No. There is no particular reason why there needs to be one (say) twitter alternative. Heck, there is not even a reason why there should be a alternative. Fediverse is allowed to be their own things.
    2. But each site already has their front page. See eg.: lemmy.dbzer0.com. Alternatively if you meant "each software", that's more-or-less what join-lemmy.org is doing.
    3. No but yes.
    4. I'm not sure that leads to where you think it leads to. That would require authenticating users financially, for one, else it becomes a dark pattern magnet for suckpuppeting.
    5. Mostly absolutely yes. I think I've seen it discussed a few times under "fediverse identity" or something like that.
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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    No. There is no particular reason why there needs to be one (say) twitter alternative.

    Having multiple versons of the same type of platform artificially divides the Fediverse and makes it more likely that they'll split along ideological lines

    Heck, there is not even a reason why there should be a alternative. Fediverse is allowed to be their own things.

    While it would be awesome if we could figureout unique formats of social media, everything has basically been done, Myspace, Facebook and Linkton are the format of keep up with your friends.

    Twitter and BlueSky are the basic format for literally "see whats trending"

    Reddit and Lemmy are the basic format of Curated Community Content.

    Youtube is the basic video sharing platform.

    Tiktok algorithmic video sharing and platform which actually improves on youtube.

    It would be really hard to fine a way to make a truly unique social media site but would be awesome

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