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[โ€“] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Some women like that little dance of rejecting and the guy not giving up, but even then only if they think youโ€™re cute beforehand. But most women will just find that creepy and off-putting.

The big frustration comes with the fact that the "most" women above are still happily consuming the romance movies/novels with the toxic paradigm you describe, along with the "some". And then they'll turn around and get indignant about it existing in real life, while promoting/encouraging it culturally simultaneously.

Look at the colossal sales figures for 50 Shades of Grey, what percentage of that do you think came from men?

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