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[–] 10 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I have to assume the people who think Star Trek is woke now also believe drag queens in the 90s represented good christian values

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    also believe drag queens in the 90s represented good christian values

    I have no horse in the race, but an argument could be made about there being multiple types of drag, especially in the UK where it's traditional to make fun of matriarchal figures by doing drag at panto for christmas.

    now if the dudes doing that are doing it to get off, who knows, but it's not all Drag Race queens and LGBT people doing it. (not that there's anything wrong with that).... also that shit existed back then too.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I’ve seen the word “professionalism” come up in a lot of people’s complaints about nuTrek, but that concept of professional behaviour is something I just don’t value. If the people you’re working with stop respecting you because you choose to sit comfortably or let out an exuberant “fuck yeah!” when things go great, I think you’re working with the wrong people. I think only unserious and immature people would worry about that.

    I’m also one of those who embraces the “scientists” view of Starfleet over the “military” view, so that might be a factor. I like to see the crew comfortable at their jobs and loving what they do.

    So all of that is to say I’m 110% down with Holly Hunter letting her piggies out, and I don’t think that reflects badly on her or her gender in the least.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    The word "professionalism" here a common dogwhistle for "obedience" and "conformity". It's use in this context is almost exclusively directed towards women, but also sometimes to black men.

    When Micheal Burhnam disobeys orders it's "unprofessional", when Worf or Picard does it, it's "bold". When Ake sits down unconventionally it's "unprofessional", when Riker does it, it's a quirky and beloved part of his character. etc. etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Yeah I’d say you hit the nail on the head. In a franchise that thought Spock saying his superiors should “go to hell” was such a great line they had Data ape it two films later, “professional” seems to be a label some characters have easier access to than others.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Well said. The unprofessional behavior is a significant contributor to turning me off nutrek. Why the hell do the engineering and science departments in discovery behave like 20 year olds in need of therapy? How the fuck did these people pass starfleet academy at all?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I can see someone else behaving like a 20 year old in need of therapy

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Sadly i am a little older than that, the therapy part is accurate though.

    I am however not a highly trained, best of the best, sci fi astronaut academy graduate charged with overseeing a critical element of a colossal machine designed to violate the laws of physics; so why does that matter?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Another one who wasn’t actually paying attention to the scenario or the dialogue while criticizing the show for being ‘dumbed down’ for younger audiences.

    I admit I’m losing patience.

    Dudes!!! This takes place when the Academy is being recreated after Starfleet and the Federation were seen to have failed large portion of the galaxy after the Burn.

    This means that this class DID NOT complete with the best and the brightest across a well connected Federation with a common base of expectations.

    They passed the entrance exams but it was not the same as a stable 24th century scenario, or even the early 25th century where Picard’s son was fast tracked based on experience.

    Some, like Genesis, are from multi generational Starfleet families that hung on in secret bases during a century of anarch.

    Most of the rest are off their planets or out of their small cluster of planets for the first time in their or their parents’ lives.

    Others are the first of their species to enter Starfleet and are there for political reasons.

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