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[–] 55 points 1 year ago* (27 children)

This isn't a discovery, this is just one of the things men in US society decided to ignore the danger of and the rest of us dutifully complied.

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  • [+] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    They also sold 884k full size trucks. How does the CEO being a woman change that the vast majority of these purchases are men?

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
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    Business person makes business decision, must be because they're a woman

    I'm too tired for this shit

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No, I'm not entertaining this anymore - it is overwhelmingly men at the core of the truck problem in the U.S.

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You have seen how incompetent Elon Musk is and you're still behaving like CEOs actually matter. Beyond the ability to tank his brand, of course.

    I don't have anything else to say.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yes, do you know what makes them relevant in their industry? Recognizing they aren't a monolith and making decisions based off of data that their employees process.

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And I guess none of these employees are women in your perfect world?

    I really don't know, truth be told I don't really look at any corporation as the individuals that make it up. They're all a part of the same monster, and that does skew my understanding of certain dynamics.

    I don't really know if I agree with the idea that men are trapped into buying bigger and bigger trucks. Truth be told, all I know is my experience on the road - the guys driving the biggest trucks end up being the most aggressive assholes. Make of that what you will.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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    Are you talking about Kei trucks? Are you seriously hinging your entire argument on legislation preventing vehicles that are less than 25 years old from being imported?

    Or are you talking about the chicken tax and CAFE standards? Because, guess what, the cheapest price I found for a brand new GMC truck is 47 grand. Cheapest price I'm seeing for a brand new Toyota Tacoma is 31k. Top tier models come out to about 50k.

    And even they're still too big, but none of that matters to you because you need a truck for truckin around doin' truck stuff!

    Edit: shit, I can find a used tacoma from 2005 that would be a better price and size than your average brand new monster truck. Anyone trying to tell me that I'm rejecting reality in a used truck market like this tells me they've got skin in the game.

    Fuck the reality people like you create.

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    This reminds me of a B52 meme... On the right side is the conservative B52 with Nazi and confederate symbols. On the left is the Liberal B52 with feminist and LGBTQ+ symbols ... Both B52's are raining hellfire on some minority because capitalist dictatorship masquerading as "democracy".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    makes it about sex

    gets refuted

    goes silly mode to deflect

    You will never escape samsara.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    This community is "FuckCars", not "FuckMen". There are plenty of men here who are here because "Fuck Cars". I don't think that alienating the men of this community will do any good.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    lol do you think I am powerful enough to alienate entire categories of men? Who do you think I am some kind of god destroyer?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Alienation can result from actions of individuals, yes.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm afraid to be here because you said something about my big truck. Gonna have to add a punsiher skull and tattered "thin blue line flag" silkscreen to my back window to reinforce my manliness.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    lights up cigar rolled with rainbow leaves

    loads chain in and cocks DEI-A 50 Cal

    Better hope you hid your heart deep enough in your toxic masculinity for these puppies not to blast through.

    pets cute dog walking by

    WHERE WAS I IN MY MONOLOGUE damnt I always do this

    Line!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nah, at least in the US women buy these too or giant SUVs with the exact same problem. Maybe it was marketing to men that started it, but it certainly isn't exclusive.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Can y'all stop making feminists roll in their graves? Learn some basic elementary school shit about how women can intentionally, unintentionally, consciously or subconciously participate in sexism against women. Please, I am terrified of how powerful an undead feminist uprising would be, human men would be fucked (or rather not fucked) for the next 10 million years. Even if we are going to continue to be sexist can we at least all agree that sexism is more nuanced than a binary "does this person possess sexism or not?" and that you can be sexist without realizing it, or be forced or cajoled into participating in sexism without realizing it?

    By far the funniest evidence for my point is that I am myself a heterosexual white man who falls in a lot of ways along the stereotypes of what a heterosexual white man is like, and yet the single biggest point I am getting in pushback in this thread is that my attack on men isn't warranted because women drive pickups too so that can't be a toxic masculinity thing... but by that logic it would be impossible for me to be sexist towards heterosexual white men right now since I am a heterosexual white man, and yet I am or at least I arguably am being sexist according to many other people on this thread?

    So which is it? Can you participate in toxic sexism without being part of the group that is on paper given permission to participate in applying the sexism with force to vulnerable groups? Can you participate in sexism intentionally or unintentionally as a victim of that very sexism? Can you participate in sexism against the categories that society or you yourself have imposed on yourself? Or is it impossible/nobody would ever do it and I am not being sexist because I am a man?

    See the thing is, I do agree, we shouldn't be sexist towards men and men have lots of problems facing them right now (chiefly, men being allowed to grow into adult babies who are incredibly emotionally immature and don't know how to deal with intense emotions in a healthy manner, especially when they stem from their views being challenged but that is a tangent) but if everybody is going to insist on having a conversation about it like we are all babies, than I will continue to light heartedly shit on men... as a man.

    shrugs

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