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[–] 12 points 9 months ago (11 children)

It absolutely isn't. If a laptop lid is closed, it needs to be sleeping, period. No random updates, no search indexing. I've also had this happen after explicitly putting laptops into sleep AND closing the lid. No idea how Apple is the only company able to do this consistently.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    no search indexing

    hear me out. how about ... there doesn't need to be a background process that runs constantly and consumes 30% of your processing power and makes the fan spin all the time because it generates so much heat.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I am stuck using an otherwise old but theoretically bearable PC at work running Windows 11 from a spinning HDD. But I'll tell you, when I dug through the registry to turn off all the background indexing nonsense, it became damn near usable.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    This absolutely can and does happen on Apple hardware

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I haven't used a mac for over a decade, but for the decade or so before that it never happened to me once, either on an iBook or MBP. Perhaps something changed in the meantime.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Apple laptops are typically extremely good when it comes to sleep and suspend.

    A major advantage of having a very small range of hardware you have to support is that it's pretty easy to test all possible combinations and make sure they work well together. As far as I'm concerned, Apple has been, and probably always will be the undisputed champion of doing this right.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    As a long time user of BSD laptops (apple) I've never had one surprise me when the screen was closed. FWIW I never buy these bsd laptops, they are given to me by $current.employer for work.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I think I've had it happen once over something like a decade of using them. From what I remember it was because I was running something in the terminal that ignored the signals it was sent, so the laptop didn't properly go to sleep. Of course, the program ended up failing because a lot of the things it depended on did suspend themselves and that caused major breakage.

    Luckily I noticed a whining sound (fans at maximum speed) from my backpack before anything too bad happened.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    If a laptop lid is closed, it needs to be sleeping, period.

    See, and here I feel the exact opposite. If it’s docked I don’t want it going to sleep just because I closed the lid. I still want to be able to use the two screens that are attached and in use!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    If a screen is connected that's another thing, though even that can lead to overheating. For example, a lot of modern laptops suck in air through the keyboard and having the lid closed while working messes up their thermal performance, and heats up the screen to an unhealthy degree.

    But having it wake up and try installing an update while sitting in a bag, closed and disconnected from a screen, is a straight up fire hazard, and it happened to me multiple times with windows laptops.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Oh yeah for sure. If only we had “bag detection” I would agree.

    I’d argue that an overheating when the lid is closed not in a bag is a major design flaw.

    I’ve never seen it but I mostly see business laptops not gaming or consumer laptops so shitty designs are out there I’m sure.

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