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[–] 47 points 10 months ago (16 children)

That won't help for situations where a government shuts down access to the internet.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    How resistant would this be to jamming? Iran managed to black out Starlink.

    And how trackable is it? Not sure how many people would be prepared to run one of these boxes if the Revolutionary Guard are going to come knocking.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's pretty easy to jam as it's just radio waves. Increase the noise on the channel and the chirps of your msg don't get heard. That said there are some options to vary the channel as a group, and jamming a broad and robust mesh completely vs an area of nodes is a bit harder.

    Trackable as in traceable? You mean finding your node location? By default not overly difficult but again, can be set up to make it hard to find you.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Wouldn't it be pretty easy to track down the source since its just radio?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yes, which is why I said it wouldn't be overly difficult, especially with access to military equipment. TDOA could fairly easily pinpoint a signal location. Meshtastic is generally chatty but you can do stuff like reduce transmissions, and limit the amount of hops your msgs can make etc. or even if you knew who you were sending to, make it directional so it's harder to hear you. That said with the right tech, actively looking for nodes and listening to a chatty mesh radio it wouldn't be hard.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Riots fix that, not meshtastic

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Riots are better coordinated when people can communicate wirelessly

    A government can shut down a riot of 10,000

    It struggles with 10 1,000 person riots.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago*

    No doubt, but meshtastic really is a temporary solution, but a very good solution since it's only necessary for a temporary amount of time. I'm just saying there aren't really many cases outside of a catastrophic mass human extinction event that would disable the internet infrastructure beyond maybe a few years if that. Won't be a library of alexandria moment from a connectivity side, but which servers are still up is the real question

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I didn't know riots and protests 50+ years ago depended on the internet. Crazy.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    If they shut the Internet and there is a decent meshtastic network they will jam that as well.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago

    This is a non answer. yes, hypothetically they can, but the whole point of finding alternative channels is to make it difficult for them to do so, to the point that they might not even try.

    That pessimism of "they can jam it anyways" is like saying do not wear a helmet while riding a bike, if you are meant to die that day, you will die regardless of head protection.

    Plus, it will take resources for them to jam things, and the more resources they need to do that shit the faster it will deplete them and the less they can do, it is so obvious I do not know how to write it without sounding demeaning.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Maybe so, but incompetence is persistent within fascist organizations, and it adds an extra problem for them to deal with, which has value for that fact alone.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Friend: do not underestimate how much greed the cel companies are capable of. Many have been working on their own satellite setups in preparation and blasting it in everyone’s face lately.

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