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Can't partner with that eViL AuThOrITarIan china after all! (lemmy.ml)
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[–] -5 points 9 months ago* (17 children)

Explain to me how denying history because it is shameful is a "communist ideal" and then we can talk.

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    We are discussing so-called "Communists" on this platform. You and I both know this place is crawling with history denialists (particularly the events of June 1989). Any "ideology" that is more concerned about preserving the image of the state over accepting responsibility is not an ideology worth my or anybody else's time. It's insulting and little and pathetic.

    I'm interested in the merits of communism, but all this platform does is re-hash the same state approved talking points over and over. It's tiring and isn't winning anybody with an ounce of morality over.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    I don't agree witg the idea that "this place is crawling with history denialists."

    See the above comment for more detail

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Like I said. This platform prohibits posting anything other than the official stance of denialism.

    There are plenty of photos of the dead scattered around bloodied and mutilated.

    You expect me to ignore that and pretend it didn't happen?

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    painting a picture of us as claiming nobody died at all on June 4th

    People are actually constantly claiming this on this platform. You're again being disingenuous by claiming otherwise or have your eyes closed.

    The whole "tank man wasn't murdered" talking point is a pathetic attempt to deny the entire incident by re-focusing the incident on tank man and completely ignoring the events which lead up to it.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    You're pathetic. I JUST explained the talking point to you and how pointless it was and you in your infinite wisdom knee jerked yourself into posting it.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    You're deflecting by focusing on the square and not the pile of mutilated corpses because you cannot defend that.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    You're inventing a motive to suit what you already feel about communists

    Incorrect. I like communists. I like communism. I don't like denialism.

    I would like to be more involved but I cannot in good conscience join any group that participates in denialism and revisionism.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Anybody know a forum for actual leftist?

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm not trying to achieve anything other than having a discussion with you. Apparently that's an unusual concept to you?

    You're the one who engaged me. You can't complain about a conversation you started and continued.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    You've refused to stay on topic and deflected at every turn with irrelevant information. That's not a "constructive conversation" either.

    I do get passionate when it comes to these things. It's alarming and disheartening to see people's lives just shrugged off and disrespected.

    I do apologize for getting feisty at you.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    You and I both know I will be banned if I posted (the freely available) photos. It's easy to claim something never happened when you own and control the platform.

    You're being intentionally disingenuous and you know it.

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