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Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney argues banning Twitter over its ability to AI-generate pornographic images of minors is just 'gatekeepers' attempting to 'censor all of their political opponents' (www.pcgamer.com)
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[+] -6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

My definition is from what words mean.

We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse. What the fuck are we supposed to call that, such that schmucks won't use the same label to refer to drawings?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    I already did the “what words mean” thing earlier.

    -involves a child
    -is sexual
    -is abusive (here’s your Simpsons exclusion, btw)
    -is material

    That’s literally every word of CSAM, and it fits.

    We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse

    Why? You’ve made a whole lot of claims it should be your way but you’ve provided no sources nor any justification as to why we need to delineate between real and AI.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Are you honestly asking me why child molestation is worse than rendering an image?

    This term was already developed to distinguish evidence of criminal events. I should fucking hope everyone here understands why preventing or punishing such events is a leading goal, but apparently that's asking too much, if y'all really do not believe there's a difference between pasting someone's head onto a magazine centerfold... versus sexually assaulting them. I am fucking bewildered by this lack of consensus on the topic of child rape. Really thought it was a gimme, for everyone to go, yeah, this thing over here is bad, but obviously it's not as bad as child rape.

    Didn't expect to fire up the computer and have Lemmings sincerely ask me, why are crimes that happened worse than crimes that didn't?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Man, your reading comprehension is really shit. You could have just stopped after the first question. Yet again you’re making an assumption about the purpose of the term.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm making an explicit argument about the purpose of the term, as a necessary component of dealing with some of the worst crimes imaginable. I didn't figure I'd ever have to explain to someone why abusing a human child is fundamentally different from and worse than drawing on top of a fuckin' JPEG.

    If y'all manage to stomp the meaning out of "CSAM," the same way y'did for "CP," we're gonna be right back here, where there's some bespoke term for the visual evidence of actual assault that physically occurred, yet people insist that a fictional rendering is-too VEOAATPO.

    Diluting the impact of these terms is antithetical to protecting children. That stupid Horses game had people lobbing the term "CSAM" at it... for a game you can buy on GOG. If you can casually say "I bought some CSAM at Walmart the other day," then the term's not doing its fucking job, describing the kind of imagery you go straight to jail for.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't figure I'd ever have to explain to someone why abusing a human child is fundamentally different from and worse than drawing on top of a fuckin' JPEG.

    Holy shit. You don’t. Stop inventing arguments and read what the fuck I’m writing. Answer those questions.

    What advantage does having unique terms for real and AI content confer? Answer in one sentence.

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