Now that Budgie 10.10 is out as the last chapter in the Budgie 10 series, the devs behind this modern Linux desktop environment have kicked off the development of the next major release, Budgie 11.

Budgie developer Joshua Strobl shares with us today some interesting details about Budgie 11, such as the fact that the upcoming desktop environment will be written in the Qt 6 open-source application framework, and some steps have already been taken in this direction with the Budgie 10.10 release.

The devs already wrote Budgie Desktop Services, the beating heart of Budgie 11, in Qt 6, and they plan on writing the Budgie Display Configurator in Qt6/Kirigami as well. The end goal here is to make Budgie more modular, allowing users and integrators alike the freedom to fully configure the desktop environment.

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[–] 5 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Qt, GTK, they're both solid. But yeah, it is an impressive development.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I much prefer QT. The GTK ethos since Gnome 3 is basically: "We're making this for our own needs, we don't care about what you want"

    And while I sympathize and understand the frustrations that downstream brings, I don't think any project not part of Gnome/GIMP should be building on it.

    QT is built from the ground up to be used by anyone, regardless of needs or use case. It's a better fit for building complex software like desktop environments.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    QT is built from the ground up to be used by anyone

    Well, KDEs Qt fork (I think they have one). Qt is released proprietary and the older versions are open source. Which may make it pretty well funded but also always behind on updates.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, for my hobbyist needs I was looking at qt myself. They've both been around since 98. But you're right about gtk being focused on their use only. It's in the name. Gimp tool kit. Though these days I guess its more GNOME?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Absolutely GNOME.

    GIMP just finally finished their port from GTK2 to GTK3 a few months ago. GTK4, released 5 years ago, has literally nothing to do with them.

    Like GNOME, I think that GTK is one of those projects that now says that the letters do not stand for anything.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah for me at least it's kind of sad how GIMP has been on the back burner forever. I was compiling pre 1.0 versions on Debian back in the 90s as it wasn't in anyone's repo yet. It's been a go to software forever regardless of my DE. But at least these days there's krita for many of those use cases, and it's QT.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Now that GIMP has finally released version 3, they seem to be moving faster. I hope they are able to get more positive mind-share.

    For example, they are close to releasing 3.2 that already has lots of great stuff in it. It looks like 3.4 could address some really long running deficiencies like native CMYK.

    If stuff actually gets released, they may not only attract users but developers which is what they really need.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It has really only been a problem since GTK4. A lot of the rest of the GTK universe has stuck with GTK3. Now we are seeing people come up with alternative versions of libadwaita.

    We should end up seeing a fork on the GTK side with GNOME going one way and everybody else another.

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