▲ 713 ▼ Linus Torvalds: "The AI Slop Issue Is NOT Going To Be Solved With Documentation" (www.phoronix.com) submitted 10 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 70 points 10 months ago (7 children) Is thisa reference to that Tailwind PR? permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children) No, this is about adding guidelines for tool-generated submissions to the kernel. The tailwind conversation was on making their documentations more accessible to AI tools. Linus doesn't want to add guidelines to not fuel any side of the whole discussion, and says that adding guidelines won't solve the problem because a lot of times it's not trivial to detect whether or not a contribution was written with AI tools, after all, "documentation is for good actors", hinting that anyone contributing AI slop is not expected to respect it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 8 points 10 months ago (3 children) Thank you for that context. I fear the day we discover something bad about Linus. In my eyes he's been very based since forever permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Your going to be dissapointed then. He's very toxic. He has gotten help That being said, I still love the guy. But he is a known hot head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 3 points 10 months ago That's pretty mild compared to what I'm afraid of. Of course that it's not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that's not "rape-slaves in the basement" level kind of stuff permalink fedilink source parent [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago Damn I’m in the loop on this one for once permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* Full thoughts on my TT holy shit I did not expect it to go that low permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 92 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children) No, this is about adding guidelines for tool-generated submissions to the kernel. The tailwind conversation was on making their documentations more accessible to AI tools. Linus doesn't want to add guidelines to not fuel any side of the whole discussion, and says that adding guidelines won't solve the problem because a lot of times it's not trivial to detect whether or not a contribution was written with AI tools, after all, "documentation is for good actors", hinting that anyone contributing AI slop is not expected to respect it anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 8 points 10 months ago (3 children) Thank you for that context. I fear the day we discover something bad about Linus. In my eyes he's been very based since forever permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Your going to be dissapointed then. He's very toxic. He has gotten help That being said, I still love the guy. But he is a known hot head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 3 points 10 months ago That's pretty mild compared to what I'm afraid of. Of course that it's not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that's not "rape-slaves in the basement" level kind of stuff permalink fedilink source parent
[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 8 points 10 months ago (3 children) Thank you for that context. I fear the day we discover something bad about Linus. In my eyes he's been very based since forever permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Your going to be dissapointed then. He's very toxic. He has gotten help That being said, I still love the guy. But he is a known hot head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 3 points 10 months ago That's pretty mild compared to what I'm afraid of. Of course that it's not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that's not "rape-slaves in the basement" level kind of stuff permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Your going to be dissapointed then. He's very toxic. He has gotten help That being said, I still love the guy. But he is a known hot head. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 3 points 10 months ago That's pretty mild compared to what I'm afraid of. Of course that it's not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that's not "rape-slaves in the basement" level kind of stuff permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago He is almost always right. He just expresses it in a way that hurts people a lot, and thats something he needs to work on. The term toxic is over used but yeah, he was very rude, insensitive, and offensive sometimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 3 points 10 months ago That's pretty mild compared to what I'm afraid of. Of course that it's not good that he is that way, although I would argue that any kind of bugzilla of an open source project is a toxic environment in itself, but that's not "rape-slaves in the basement" level kind of stuff permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago Damn I’m in the loop on this one for once permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* Full thoughts on my TT holy shit I did not expect it to go that low permalink fedilink source parent