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[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 115 points 10 months ago* (81 children) How did compliance work out for that lady in her car? They don't need a fucking reason. We are past the point where being "one of the good ones" makes you less likely to get killed. Time to be a hard target instead of a victim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 81 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago We're going to recreate Tiananmen Square. We may zip right past Kent State. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 15 points 10 months ago (4 children) Pay attention to what the rest of us do so you know what stories to make up so your kids didn't learn what a useless pussy you were when it mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) If only what Trump and ice were doing got you as mad as criticism of your advocacy for compliance and cowardness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) “People don’t know that they don’t respawn when they die” What kind of Gamerslop bullshit is this. Yes, people know that when you die you’re dead. This also reeks of defeatism. “Our chance was election day and they ruined it.” Fuck all the way off with that bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) by all means, go ahead and overthrow the fascist regime. But if you're gonna sit on your ass instead, then at least stop acting brave on the internet. So you think people should be taking action? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 27 points 10 months ago* (52 children) Your unwillingness to fight for you community is embarrassing. Stay home. Its OK that you are fucking coward, that is your right, but its time for you to get the fuck out of the way of the people who are actually going to change this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 52 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 21 points 10 months ago (11 children) Remember to take credit for the work that the rest of us do once this shit is over, just like every other coward that acts like they are helping when its safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you. So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders. Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Ok I'll call people cowards then, I managed to square off with the SPD, along with a number of other Seattleites, a number of years back, and... We managed to cause them to retreat from their regional precinct HQ, they burned all the documents they couldn't take with them, and fucking abandoned it. But sure, yeah, go on, tell me more about how direct action can't work. The entire fucking point is that you organize as something like a guerllia force, not that you just try to 'one man operator' this shit. You need discipline, organization, tactics, actual physical capability, opsec, etc. A lone wolf is a suicide by cop. Yeah, don't do that, duh? Oh and no, there aren't any identifiable videos of me. ... Because I am not a moron. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children) Fuck off, you think we don’t see the fresh 7, 15 day old accounts all advocating for bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (21 children) Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (5 children) This administration has been promoting violence. We are promoting self defense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) What you're promoting and what the Trump admin wants align pretty well enough. You know what the Trump admin wants more than armed resistance? No resistance at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) The reality is that they are scared and they are privileged. They've never felt helpless before. They've never actually been impacted by the horrors that others... kind of just live with. To them? Cops are the enemy but they are also who you call when your neighbor's party is a bit too loud. So they had their first experience of fear and helplessness. And they need to DO SOMETHING about it. Which makes them think of all their role models like John McClane and John Rambo and John Halo. Maybe they've even shot a gun a few times and figure they know what they are doing. They're gonna do something and they're gonna do it all by themselves and anyone who doesn't is a coward. But also, episode 8 of Stranger Things is tonight so maybe next month? But all you fuckers who are talking about maybe talking to organizers and getting involved with their community? THOSE are the real cowards! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (10 replies) [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 53 points 10 months ago (18 children) ICE will not show up if people actually shoot back. They only act like this because they believe they are invincible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 46 points 10 months ago Both of which were unarmed when slaughtered permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (11 children) How well has the army done against guerrilla warfare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago Homie was right, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing." whats the end goal of your ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them. We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 10 months ago If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago A half dozen or so armed citizens on ICE watch in every neighborhood will have a chilling effect on their bullshit pretty fucking quick. And if not? If not, then you’re already so far gone that you have no choice but to fight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What did they do at Uvalde Texas again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 115 points 10 months ago* (81 children) How did compliance work out for that lady in her car? They don't need a fucking reason. We are past the point where being "one of the good ones" makes you less likely to get killed. Time to be a hard target instead of a victim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 81 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago We're going to recreate Tiananmen Square. We may zip right past Kent State. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 15 points 10 months ago (4 children) Pay attention to what the rest of us do so you know what stories to make up so your kids didn't learn what a useless pussy you were when it mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) If only what Trump and ice were doing got you as mad as criticism of your advocacy for compliance and cowardness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) “People don’t know that they don’t respawn when they die” What kind of Gamerslop bullshit is this. Yes, people know that when you die you’re dead. This also reeks of defeatism. “Our chance was election day and they ruined it.” Fuck all the way off with that bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) by all means, go ahead and overthrow the fascist regime. But if you're gonna sit on your ass instead, then at least stop acting brave on the internet. So you think people should be taking action? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 27 points 10 months ago* (52 children) Your unwillingness to fight for you community is embarrassing. Stay home. Its OK that you are fucking coward, that is your right, but its time for you to get the fuck out of the way of the people who are actually going to change this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 52 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 21 points 10 months ago (11 children) Remember to take credit for the work that the rest of us do once this shit is over, just like every other coward that acts like they are helping when its safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you. So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders. Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Ok I'll call people cowards then, I managed to square off with the SPD, along with a number of other Seattleites, a number of years back, and... We managed to cause them to retreat from their regional precinct HQ, they burned all the documents they couldn't take with them, and fucking abandoned it. But sure, yeah, go on, tell me more about how direct action can't work. The entire fucking point is that you organize as something like a guerllia force, not that you just try to 'one man operator' this shit. You need discipline, organization, tactics, actual physical capability, opsec, etc. A lone wolf is a suicide by cop. Yeah, don't do that, duh? Oh and no, there aren't any identifiable videos of me. ... Because I am not a moron. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children) Fuck off, you think we don’t see the fresh 7, 15 day old accounts all advocating for bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (21 children) Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (5 children) This administration has been promoting violence. We are promoting self defense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) What you're promoting and what the Trump admin wants align pretty well enough. You know what the Trump admin wants more than armed resistance? No resistance at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) The reality is that they are scared and they are privileged. They've never felt helpless before. They've never actually been impacted by the horrors that others... kind of just live with. To them? Cops are the enemy but they are also who you call when your neighbor's party is a bit too loud. So they had their first experience of fear and helplessness. And they need to DO SOMETHING about it. Which makes them think of all their role models like John McClane and John Rambo and John Halo. Maybe they've even shot a gun a few times and figure they know what they are doing. They're gonna do something and they're gonna do it all by themselves and anyone who doesn't is a coward. But also, episode 8 of Stranger Things is tonight so maybe next month? But all you fuckers who are talking about maybe talking to organizers and getting involved with their community? THOSE are the real cowards! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (10 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago We're going to recreate Tiananmen Square. We may zip right past Kent State. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago We're going to recreate Tiananmen Square. We may zip right past Kent State. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 15 points 10 months ago (4 children) Pay attention to what the rest of us do so you know what stories to make up so your kids didn't learn what a useless pussy you were when it mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) If only what Trump and ice were doing got you as mad as criticism of your advocacy for compliance and cowardness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 15 points 10 months ago (4 children) Pay attention to what the rest of us do so you know what stories to make up so your kids didn't learn what a useless pussy you were when it mattered. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) If only what Trump and ice were doing got you as mad as criticism of your advocacy for compliance and cowardness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) If only what Trump and ice were doing got you as mad as criticism of your advocacy for compliance and cowardness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago (2 children) If only what Trump and ice were doing got you as mad as criticism of your advocacy for compliance and cowardness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago Is what I actually said so hard to argue with that you need to make up bullshit arguments to argue against? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) “People don’t know that they don’t respawn when they die” What kind of Gamerslop bullshit is this. Yes, people know that when you die you’re dead. This also reeks of defeatism. “Our chance was election day and they ruined it.” Fuck all the way off with that bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) by all means, go ahead and overthrow the fascist regime. But if you're gonna sit on your ass instead, then at least stop acting brave on the internet. So you think people should be taking action? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) “People don’t know that they don’t respawn when they die” What kind of Gamerslop bullshit is this. Yes, people know that when you die you’re dead. This also reeks of defeatism. “Our chance was election day and they ruined it.” Fuck all the way off with that bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) by all means, go ahead and overthrow the fascist regime. But if you're gonna sit on your ass instead, then at least stop acting brave on the internet. So you think people should be taking action? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) by all means, go ahead and overthrow the fascist regime. But if you're gonna sit on your ass instead, then at least stop acting brave on the internet. So you think people should be taking action? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) by all means, go ahead and overthrow the fascist regime. But if you're gonna sit on your ass instead, then at least stop acting brave on the internet. So you think people should be taking action? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 27 points 10 months ago* (52 children) Your unwillingness to fight for you community is embarrassing. Stay home. Its OK that you are fucking coward, that is your right, but its time for you to get the fuck out of the way of the people who are actually going to change this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 52 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 21 points 10 months ago (11 children) Remember to take credit for the work that the rest of us do once this shit is over, just like every other coward that acts like they are helping when its safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you. So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders. Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Ok I'll call people cowards then, I managed to square off with the SPD, along with a number of other Seattleites, a number of years back, and... We managed to cause them to retreat from their regional precinct HQ, they burned all the documents they couldn't take with them, and fucking abandoned it. But sure, yeah, go on, tell me more about how direct action can't work. The entire fucking point is that you organize as something like a guerllia force, not that you just try to 'one man operator' this shit. You need discipline, organization, tactics, actual physical capability, opsec, etc. A lone wolf is a suicide by cop. Yeah, don't do that, duh? Oh and no, there aren't any identifiable videos of me. ... Because I am not a moron. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children) Fuck off, you think we don’t see the fresh 7, 15 day old accounts all advocating for bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (21 children) Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 27 points 10 months ago* (52 children) Your unwillingness to fight for you community is embarrassing. Stay home. Its OK that you are fucking coward, that is your right, but its time for you to get the fuck out of the way of the people who are actually going to change this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 52 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 21 points 10 months ago (11 children) Remember to take credit for the work that the rest of us do once this shit is over, just like every other coward that acts like they are helping when its safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you. So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders. Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Ok I'll call people cowards then, I managed to square off with the SPD, along with a number of other Seattleites, a number of years back, and... We managed to cause them to retreat from their regional precinct HQ, they burned all the documents they couldn't take with them, and fucking abandoned it. But sure, yeah, go on, tell me more about how direct action can't work. The entire fucking point is that you organize as something like a guerllia force, not that you just try to 'one man operator' this shit. You need discipline, organization, tactics, actual physical capability, opsec, etc. A lone wolf is a suicide by cop. Yeah, don't do that, duh? Oh and no, there aren't any identifiable videos of me. ... Because I am not a moron. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children) Fuck off, you think we don’t see the fresh 7, 15 day old accounts all advocating for bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (21 children) Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 21 points 10 months ago (11 children) Remember to take credit for the work that the rest of us do once this shit is over, just like every other coward that acts like they are helping when its safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 21 points 10 months ago (11 children) Remember to take credit for the work that the rest of us do once this shit is over, just like every other coward that acts like they are helping when its safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Were the Nazis stopped by peaceful protests? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago The Nazis took control because of a Splintered Left into multiple factions while the Right was united. The Nazis came for the communists first while the moderates watched, because the communists and moderates were almost as much each others enemies as the Nazis were. So exactly what is happening now? History is repeating, undesirables are being rounded up and the fascist dictator in charge of it has invaded a nearby country. Surely if the Jews had only protested peacefully the Holocaust never would have happened. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) I feel the need to both support and dismantle this argument. The Civil Rights movement in the 60s was not at all peaceful. That is mostly revisionist history pushed as part of Black History Month. There were MANY groups involved but two of the most well known are The Black Panthers and those associated with Martin Luther King Jr. With the general nonsense being that MLK et al were actually anti-violence while the Black Panthers were borderline terrorists. That is very incorrect. MLK et al were very much pro gun because they understood what they were facing. But they also were very very aware of what the US Government had already done in places like Tulsa and the many many times that Native Americans were slaughtered. Carrying a gun to a protest just gives the cops/soldiers an excuse to unload on you. Hence, there were very very VERY different protocols when marching versus... for lack of a better term, surviving in between marches. Terrified black and brown people desperate to live? Yeah, they'll show up. The white masses who are sympathetic but not to the point of wanting to eat a bullet? Maybe keep them away from the bullets if you want the numbers? Which gets to the other side that ALWAYS angers me when the gun nuts bring them up: The Black Panthers. Yes, they were a group with militaristic tendencies that engaged in "open carry patrols" to fight back against the cops. But... that isn't what made them so successful. It was actually all of the community outreach programs. The student lunch program (specifically breakfast) actually owes a LOT to The Black Panthers, funny enough. As one of their tactics was to actually organize and feed kids in communities. Which, again, is what the gun nuts forget. There is no "we are going to take off our masks and blend into the populace after shooting the bad guys" nonsense. If you engage in violence, you are putting a target on you and your family. And all the government has to do is say "We have reason to believe John Smith is hiding in this neighborhood. Turn him over". You know how you don't get your ass beat and lynched in a heartbeat? By being part of your community. When they come for you, they come for everyone. And you do that through outreach and actually protecting your community. Not just going to the range and practicing your quick draw shooting. And that is why people genuinely loved the Black Panthers (... and it is a model that has been used by organized crime the world over...). When the cops and state won't protect a community? You look to those who do. And when the cops and state decide they want to hurt the people who have been protecting you? You return the favor. Because Jamal and Muhammed aren't just black power activists who openly carry rifles. They are the guys who walked all those kids home from school when the cops (and the whites...) were raiding the neighborhood. They are the people who helped you fix your door. They have been there for you. Are you going to be there for them? Guess who you don't care about? That dipshit who waved a gun at a cop and got the Johnson family killed in the crossfire. And modern day protests very much come out of the lessons of the Civil Rights Movement (with many of the oldhats having actually marched in that... and been regularly investigated by the cops ever since). Protests are peaceful. End of story. Anything that might not be peaceful? Never heard of it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar. But maybe go get to know your local community organizers and, when they trust you, ask them about what nonsense that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children) Please please go read a history book...almost all revolutions are born from violence. The oppressors don't give a shit if you're peaceful when they have no moral code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) Almost all revolutions fail miserably and the authoritarians they opposed use it as an opportunity to enforce martial law and expand their power. Germany and Spain being prime examples, and particularly relevant given the parallels between Trump and Hitler's Gestapo. They disarmed the jews... Sometimes they succeed and give birth to even worse regimes, such as USSR, China, and Cuba. Also disarmed the populous. Now look at what a successful revolution with a good outcome looks like: France. How did they do it? By organizing the entire population under their banner, and bankrupting the state, first. France...used guillotines...aka violence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago No they became authoritarian when they disarmed the populous....again go read a history book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (36 children) You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you. So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders. Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Ok I'll call people cowards then, I managed to square off with the SPD, along with a number of other Seattleites, a number of years back, and... We managed to cause them to retreat from their regional precinct HQ, they burned all the documents they couldn't take with them, and fucking abandoned it. But sure, yeah, go on, tell me more about how direct action can't work. The entire fucking point is that you organize as something like a guerllia force, not that you just try to 'one man operator' this shit. You need discipline, organization, tactics, actual physical capability, opsec, etc. A lone wolf is a suicide by cop. Yeah, don't do that, duh? Oh and no, there aren't any identifiable videos of me. ... Because I am not a moron. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children) Fuck off, you think we don’t see the fresh 7, 15 day old accounts all advocating for bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (21 children) Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) Ok I'll call people cowards then, I managed to square off with the SPD, along with a number of other Seattleites, a number of years back, and... We managed to cause them to retreat from their regional precinct HQ, they burned all the documents they couldn't take with them, and fucking abandoned it. But sure, yeah, go on, tell me more about how direct action can't work. The entire fucking point is that you organize as something like a guerllia force, not that you just try to 'one man operator' this shit. You need discipline, organization, tactics, actual physical capability, opsec, etc. A lone wolf is a suicide by cop. Yeah, don't do that, duh? Oh and no, there aren't any identifiable videos of me. ... Because I am not a moron. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (10 children) Fuck off, you think we don’t see the fresh 7, 15 day old accounts all advocating for bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I appreciate that everyone is skeptical of all comments here. And I'm glad people express that skepticism. It's very clear there's manipulation here. And if you think you're immune, you shouldn't be participating in anonymous social media. But I do appreciate that there are some people here to fight against the bots and threats to democracy, both foreign and domestic. Even if we can't tell who they are or what is manipulation and what is honest. Be careful what you post. Be aware. Be skeptical. Talk to people in real life, because even if it's just people at the corner shop, that's a hell of a lot more valuable than here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) Lest anyone be misled, I'm taking the opportunity to note that Lemmy is not anonymous social media. It's pseudonymous. We may not be using real names here, but nothing about this is private, and it's all publicly accessible. Just a PSA! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I was thinking of the other side. It's relevant in how much of a barrier it creates to making new, plausible accounts. Not much of one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (3 children) Well then you shouldn’t mind me telling what sounds like a Russian bot to fuck off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Dasvidanya. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (21 children) Your canned lines are tired. And yes, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (9 children) Please take a looong nap lmao. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) This is why you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Don’t talk fucking down to me. You have no idea who I’ve voted for or what I’ve done. And at this point it is everyone’s mess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (3 children) also like how you act all aghast at being talked down to after... checks notes... talking down to others. Let's check the notes on your first post in this thread: You talk really tough for someone who hasn't done anything about it. If you have, it surely would have caught some headlines, and you probably wouldn't be alive to post about it. We'd probably all be commenting on a video of you getting taken out by 20x as many cops. And if you were in a crowd of people, likely many would be taken out with you.So if you do decide to put your money where your mouth is, just be sure to do it far away from peaceful protestors and any bystanders.Until then, stop calling people cowards, you coward. Well fuck me, rules for thee not for me indeed. Every accusation is a confession. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ya, you seem to not like it very much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (7 children) How was your nap? ICE shot a couple more Americans while you did fuck all. But it’s okay. You’re tired. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago (5 children) Because you’re responsible for your own fucking country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children) What a joke. Your neighbors have been telling you (correctly) for three decades what was going to happen if you kept letting your kids play with matches- you were belligerent and shitty in response. Now that your house is ablaze and threatening to burn down the rest of the street, you now tell everyone else that “it’s not your family so it’s none of your business.” MAGA level clown shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I love how confidently full of shit you are all over this whole thread- anything to make yourself feel like this isn’t your problem to fix. Anyway, didn’t you say you were done here a while ago? Go have a sit down. You’ve earned it. You’ve done all you can do, clearly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (5 children) This administration has been promoting violence. We are promoting self defense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) What you're promoting and what the Trump admin wants align pretty well enough. You know what the Trump admin wants more than armed resistance? No resistance at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (5 children) This administration has been promoting violence. We are promoting self defense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) What you're promoting and what the Trump admin wants align pretty well enough. You know what the Trump admin wants more than armed resistance? No resistance at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) What you're promoting and what the Trump admin wants align pretty well enough. You know what the Trump admin wants more than armed resistance? No resistance at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) What you're promoting and what the Trump admin wants align pretty well enough. You know what the Trump admin wants more than armed resistance? No resistance at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago that you consider anything other than run and gun action shooter scenes as "no resistance" Not what was said at any point. Try again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) The reality is that they are scared and they are privileged. They've never felt helpless before. They've never actually been impacted by the horrors that others... kind of just live with. To them? Cops are the enemy but they are also who you call when your neighbor's party is a bit too loud. So they had their first experience of fear and helplessness. And they need to DO SOMETHING about it. Which makes them think of all their role models like John McClane and John Rambo and John Halo. Maybe they've even shot a gun a few times and figure they know what they are doing. They're gonna do something and they're gonna do it all by themselves and anyone who doesn't is a coward. But also, episode 8 of Stranger Things is tonight so maybe next month? But all you fuckers who are talking about maybe talking to organizers and getting involved with their community? THOSE are the real cowards! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) The reality is that they are scared and they are privileged. They've never felt helpless before. They've never actually been impacted by the horrors that others... kind of just live with. To them? Cops are the enemy but they are also who you call when your neighbor's party is a bit too loud. So they had their first experience of fear and helplessness. And they need to DO SOMETHING about it. Which makes them think of all their role models like John McClane and John Rambo and John Halo. Maybe they've even shot a gun a few times and figure they know what they are doing. They're gonna do something and they're gonna do it all by themselves and anyone who doesn't is a coward. But also, episode 8 of Stranger Things is tonight so maybe next month? But all you fuckers who are talking about maybe talking to organizers and getting involved with their community? THOSE are the real cowards! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 53 points 10 months ago (18 children) ICE will not show up if people actually shoot back. They only act like this because they believe they are invincible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 46 points 10 months ago Both of which were unarmed when slaughtered permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (11 children) How well has the army done against guerrilla warfare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago Homie was right, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing." whats the end goal of your ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them. We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 10 months ago If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago A half dozen or so armed citizens on ICE watch in every neighborhood will have a chilling effect on their bullshit pretty fucking quick. And if not? If not, then you’re already so far gone that you have no choice but to fight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What did they do at Uvalde Texas again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (2 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 46 points 10 months ago Both of which were unarmed when slaughtered permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (11 children) How well has the army done against guerrilla warfare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago Homie was right, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing." whats the end goal of your ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them. We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 10 months ago If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 46 points 10 months ago Both of which were unarmed when slaughtered permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (11 children) How well has the army done against guerrilla warfare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago Homie was right, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing." whats the end goal of your ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them. We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 10 months ago If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago Homie was right, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing." whats the end goal of your ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them. We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago Homie was right, you’re a coward. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) super strange argument you have, "these people are oppressive and totally powerful, and we should do nothing." whats the end goal of your ideology? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago Black Panthers? Rioters. Armed defense for Drag Queen Nights? Terrorists. Idk man. Seems like a bad summary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago Long pole with a spray can on one end is classic anti camera tech. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago That's a good first step. One of the best things we can do to fight back is make sure we have cameras that report to us, and that don't report to them. We decided what our cameras are used for. Not them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 10 months ago If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago Do you really not think there will be outside involvement when things go tits up? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago Here’s another bot commenting 46 times telling us to swallow boot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 3 points 10 months ago If there is one thing the right is correct about it is about keeping the guns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago A half dozen or so armed citizens on ICE watch in every neighborhood will have a chilling effect on their bullshit pretty fucking quick. And if not? If not, then you’re already so far gone that you have no choice but to fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What did they do at Uvalde Texas again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What did they do at Uvalde Texas again? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)