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I did not care for the Godfather (lemmy.world)
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[–] 20 points 10 months ago (8 children)

On one level, if I like something and you don't, we are both right. But there are times when I have to admit I just don't have the background and knowledge to appreciate it. I can't deal with Jazz. I don't get it. I'm not going to say it's not good, just because I don't get it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You can try fusion genres of jazz with something you like, and see if it's fun that way. E.g. you've posted about The Lords of the New Church, who seem to have been playing punk and post-punk:

    Jazz with post-punk: James Chance & The Contortions

    Jazz-mathcore: Needle Play

    Instrumental noise-rock/math-rock/punk-jazz: Lanzallamas

    I might be able to throw in more names if you name other genres. In particular, I have a bunch of various jazz-metal, e.g. jazz-grindcore/ska: Le Scrawl.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    It's interesting you say that because jazz bars aren't exactly a roaring success anymore. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that jazz was considered counterculture, and people like that aspect of it. These days no one really cares about jazz and no one's trying to ban it. And it's interesting that now it's less popular.

    Maybe it wasn't actually ever good?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    It's moreso that Jazz got torn apart for spare parts after it went mainstream. I'm quite literally listening to a Credence Clearwater Revival record right now to make sure it's in good condition and the current song started up with a very Jazzy guitar. So if you aren't really into jazz as a genre you probably aren't gonna notice it since it kinda faded into the background culturally, kinda like funk, reggae, and bluegrass.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    part of it is just music moving forward, part of it is music becoming less about musicianship due to decreasing music education. Part of what makes certain genres like jazz have a stronger appreciation is when you’ve spent at least some time studying music composition and theory so you can appreciate the technical mastery being displayed.

    This doesn’t discount music that doesn’t play to those more technical aspects or imply that genres and artists within those spaces are bad or not as good, but it’s more a commentary on the declining quality of educational access in the west. The liberal arts are dead and your kid will be taught the bare minimum to make them a peon that can maximize earnings for a capitalist pig. Culture in decline

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