▲ 812 ▼ Speed test pits six generations of Windows against each other — Windows 11 placed dead last across most benchmarks, 8.1 emerges as unexpected winner in this unscientific comparison (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 10 months ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 96 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 10 months ago (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] parzival@lemmy.org 18 points 10 months ago (3 children) the problem is that specifically in Windows 11, it isn't booted up when the login is shown, as integral processes aren't started. Some of these include: the start menu, the search menu, file explorer, and many other background processes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I'd consider time from boot to login prompt to be a useless metric. You could design an OS to show a prompt before anything else to "win" this pointless race. Boot to usable is the only one that makes sense. Ok, one case where boot to login is useful: you want to boot up and walk away for a bit, so less waiting for a login means you can login before walking away. Though, personally, I find RAM training takes a long time these days if you're not waking from suspend, so still think boot to login is moot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) This is important to me. More than "time until login" I'd prefer "time until queue". I want to login before walking away because I want to open certain programs. So if an OS allows me to tell it "after you boot up, open these 3 programs" but hasn't completely booted up, I would prefer it to one that only lets you open programs once it has booted. And no, configuring so it opens the same programs at startup doesn't count. I wanna choose every time I turn on the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] parzival@lemmy.org 1 point 10 months ago you could almost certainly do this with grub somehow, but yeah I see your point permalink fedilink source parent [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago I believe that once the OS reaches a user login, that still counts as the OS as booted up. This is exactly the kind of gullibility for which the login is displayed before the OS is done booting / starting all background processes. Don't be gullible. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (6 children) I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was fix the start button and then not fuck with it and I'm sure there would have been way less hatorade flowing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago* (5 children) I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was insert AI All that Satya Nadella read... probably permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago also look on the bright side... at least they haven't given Clippy sentience yet! permalink fedilink source parent [–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) frfr. bill gates must be rolling over in his grave. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) i’d like to be in your alternative universe where bill gates dies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn permalink fedilink source parent
[–] parzival@lemmy.org 18 points 10 months ago (3 children) the problem is that specifically in Windows 11, it isn't booted up when the login is shown, as integral processes aren't started. Some of these include: the start menu, the search menu, file explorer, and many other background processes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I'd consider time from boot to login prompt to be a useless metric. You could design an OS to show a prompt before anything else to "win" this pointless race. Boot to usable is the only one that makes sense. Ok, one case where boot to login is useful: you want to boot up and walk away for a bit, so less waiting for a login means you can login before walking away. Though, personally, I find RAM training takes a long time these days if you're not waking from suspend, so still think boot to login is moot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) This is important to me. More than "time until login" I'd prefer "time until queue". I want to login before walking away because I want to open certain programs. So if an OS allows me to tell it "after you boot up, open these 3 programs" but hasn't completely booted up, I would prefer it to one that only lets you open programs once it has booted. And no, configuring so it opens the same programs at startup doesn't count. I wanna choose every time I turn on the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] parzival@lemmy.org 1 point 10 months ago you could almost certainly do this with grub somehow, but yeah I see your point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I'd consider time from boot to login prompt to be a useless metric. You could design an OS to show a prompt before anything else to "win" this pointless race. Boot to usable is the only one that makes sense. Ok, one case where boot to login is useful: you want to boot up and walk away for a bit, so less waiting for a login means you can login before walking away. Though, personally, I find RAM training takes a long time these days if you're not waking from suspend, so still think boot to login is moot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) This is important to me. More than "time until login" I'd prefer "time until queue". I want to login before walking away because I want to open certain programs. So if an OS allows me to tell it "after you boot up, open these 3 programs" but hasn't completely booted up, I would prefer it to one that only lets you open programs once it has booted. And no, configuring so it opens the same programs at startup doesn't count. I wanna choose every time I turn on the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] parzival@lemmy.org 1 point 10 months ago you could almost certainly do this with grub somehow, but yeah I see your point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) This is important to me. More than "time until login" I'd prefer "time until queue". I want to login before walking away because I want to open certain programs. So if an OS allows me to tell it "after you boot up, open these 3 programs" but hasn't completely booted up, I would prefer it to one that only lets you open programs once it has booted. And no, configuring so it opens the same programs at startup doesn't count. I wanna choose every time I turn on the computer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] parzival@lemmy.org 1 point 10 months ago you could almost certainly do this with grub somehow, but yeah I see your point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] parzival@lemmy.org 1 point 10 months ago you could almost certainly do this with grub somehow, but yeah I see your point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago I believe that once the OS reaches a user login, that still counts as the OS as booted up. This is exactly the kind of gullibility for which the login is displayed before the OS is done booting / starting all background processes. Don't be gullible. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (6 children) I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was fix the start button and then not fuck with it and I'm sure there would have been way less hatorade flowing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago* (5 children) I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was insert AI All that Satya Nadella read... probably permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago also look on the bright side... at least they haven't given Clippy sentience yet! permalink fedilink source parent [–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) frfr. bill gates must be rolling over in his grave. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) i’d like to be in your alternative universe where bill gates dies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago* (5 children) I "early adopted" Win 11 when the Ryzen 5600X came out (late 2020 i think?) and it was objectively better at release. All MS had to do was insert AI All that Satya Nadella read... probably permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago also look on the bright side... at least they haven't given Clippy sentience yet! permalink fedilink source parent [–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) frfr. bill gates must be rolling over in his grave. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) i’d like to be in your alternative universe where bill gates dies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago also look on the bright side... at least they haven't given Clippy sentience yet! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) frfr. bill gates must be rolling over in his grave. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) i’d like to be in your alternative universe where bill gates dies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) i’d like to be in your alternative universe where bill gates dies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago granted, but now your username is "gouthaver87" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago Boy was in the files. He wishing he was dead rn permalink fedilink source parent