So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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[–] 41 points 10 months ago (16 children)

No, this is different and completely unprecedented.

We went into a foreign country, abducted their leader, and brought him back to America to be tried under our justice system for laws he was never subject to for crimes he almost had nothing to do with.

I'd love to see a source for America abducting the leader of a country we're not at war with, and bringing them to America for trial.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago*

    While the above poster is missing the particulars, this still is unprecedented - panama and the US were at war, and Noriega surrendered to US forces before being taken to the US. As far as I'm aware, brazen kidnapping like just happened with Maduro really is a new low for the US.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I think we did that to Hawaii. And now it’s a state.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Nah, Hawaii was an invasion, I believe the Queen was travelling to DC.

    She left Hawaii as a queen and when she got to Hawaii to negotiate a treaty, she was told Hawaii was already an American territory

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The close enough for me. Going in to countries and fucking about then leaving them worse is kinda what we do unfortunately. Well I guess it’s what all countries who can do as well.

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    Approximately 24,000 troops descended upon Panama in December 1989, beginning a weekslong siege of the country that scattered the government and military officials.

    That's an invasion, not a kidnapping...

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