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New York City Housing Authority to Replace Gas Stoves With Battery-Backed Induction Stoves in 100 Apartments Under Energy-Efficiency Pilot Program (citylimits.org)
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[–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This stuff would matter if induction stoves just had a raw component and no cooling or temperatue sensor or pot presence sensor. They're an engineered product which doesn't fail in the same way that the raw components do without any of that.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    After thinking about this for a while... I can't say I agree with that.

    Sensors can fail. Some companies may even produce sub-standard sensors or faulty logic. I think it's OK to tell people that copper and aluminum aren't allowed on an induction top, and the makers of induction tops seem to think similarly, they just add a sentence "unless equipped with a magnetic base".

    Let's take a manual of a randomly chosen induction cooker:

    https://www.caple.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/C850I-Instruction-manual-May-2017.pdf

    Let's examine what it says:

    Cookware made from the following materials is not suitable: pure stainless steel, aluminum or copper without a magnetic base, glass, wood, porcelain, ceramic, and earthenware

    On one hand, an aluminum pot won't heat. On the other hand, aluminum foil will melt, or if placed somewhat closer, catch fire. I think I should be allowed to claim that "aluminum is forbidden" on induction tops and add that "aluminum foil is extra forbidden".

    Will you kindly restore my post? People can downvote or argue it if they don't like my interpretation, but I don't think it's misinformation. It explains some things they might not even know about. I would be sad if people think that ferromagnetism is required for induction heating to happen. It would be nice if people understood how their cooker accomplishes heating in more depth than "if a magnet sticks, it's OK".

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children)

    That manual entry is different from the danger case; it's just telling you that the stove won't do anything, which is what ones I've actually encountered do: they have a sensor which detects a non-ferromagnetic material, and keeps the stove from activating.

    Sure stuff can fail. But designed right, it means that the stove breaks, not that it puts people in danger.

    This is a bunch of scaremongering.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    This is a bunch of scaremongering.

    Then you should also remove my post about it being possible to blow out a wall with a gas stove. It might also scare people. It's here, I kindly request that you review it:

    https://slrpnk.net/comment/19887409

    Moderation practises should be consistent, in my opinion.

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