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New York City Housing Authority to Replace Gas Stoves With Battery-Backed Induction Stoves in 100 Apartments Under Energy-Efficiency Pilot Program (citylimits.org)
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[–] 34 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Those batteries can be used to provide backup power when the grid goes down.

https://electrek.co/2024/02/29/induction-ovens-with-big-batteries-solve-lots-of-problems/

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    I did not know this exists and I love the idea. However, the author clearly never has used an induction stove: “Because of this, they are more efficient than typical electric resistance stoves and also safer because the surface of the oven doesn’t get very hot.”

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I actually thought both of those points were true.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I have induction and this is certainly true. The surface only gets heated by the pot on top. So only after a long time does it get very hot and never even close to a regular electric stove.

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  • [+] -16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Okay, go ahead and touch it, if it does not get “very hot”.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That's literally one of the advantages of induction over resistive. Resistive heat an element, that heats the pot. Inductive use a magnetic field to induce a current in the pot. That electric current then heats the pot directly.

    The only heat in the stovetop is either bleed back from the pot, or resistive losses, which are quite low.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Wanna make a bet that I can boil some water and safely touch (for a short time) the stove top right after? I'm willing to bet a lot of money. 'cause I've done it. And because of physics.

    The pot is 100 °C (because of physics), which is heating the glass. Glass is not as conductive as metal, so it's not as dangerous to touch. Touching a pot of boiling water is not pleasant, but not very dangerous if you immediately remove your hand, and touching the stove is even less dangerous than that. Completely different ball game to vitroceramic resistive heating which heats the stove itself well above boiling temperatures.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    Big lol. Compares boiling water to frying. The author of the article was generally speaking. And by generally they were saying the surface does not get very hot. Yes. It does not get 800°C. But it still can and will get to 300°C. Is it less? Yes. Is it still fucking hot and causing severe burns? YES.

    Stop saying it is safe, because that causes people to believe this and get harmed for no fucking reason.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Nope. Had induction. The ceramic gets just as hot, because you heat up the metal on top and the metal is touching the ceramic, thus it gets hot. Enough to cause severe burns.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds like you didn't have induction but had a normal flat top stove with electric burners.

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