Fake videos show frustrated, unmarried, childless middle-aged women crying and venting in hospital hallways about their life choices.

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[–] -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Don’t get carried away. The reason is the opposite of what you think.

Their birth rates dropped dramatically because they raised so many people out of poverty with socialism. But now capitalism demands that they generate more workers.

Pretty deep irony, because very recently they weren’t allowed to have more than one child.

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  • [+] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    You’re correct. It’s an oversimplification…but not a big one.

    Cold hard predicative and replicable facts are better than “it must suck in China so they don’t want kids, bro”

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    It’s an oversimplification…but not a big one.

    It's a massive oversimplification that seems to whitewash China's policies.

    Every country that undergoes industrialisation and urbanisation has a big drop in birth rates. Same in capitalist and socialist countries, there's no essential difference in how it plays out (the tempo is different from case to case for many reasons, but the trend is the same). But China additionally made the rates plummet through govt intervention.

    So you stressed and praised the part that wasn't truly crucial for the outcome (socialism), but ignored the part (one child policy) that drastically contributed to the outcome and that can't be presented as nice or intuitively desirable (regardless of whether it objectively was or wasn't a good decision). That's not simplification but selectiveness.

    (Yes, it is true that many lemmings who live outside China just project their own "China sucks" logic onto the Chinese, and their approach is wrong, I agree with you on that count.)

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Yes…because those things create wealth. Sounds like you agree but are trying to find an argument. We know birth rate and wealth/poverty are directly related…it’s is what it is. Once upon a time it was just understood that was the case…before everybody injected personal politics into everything.

    For the purposes of my comment I’m ambivalent about the political “vehicle”…I’m just plainly stating what happened: social policy raised billions out of poverty….then the capitalist elements of the society demanded labour. We know it’s not the other way around. If you think I’m assigning value to either capitalism or socialism, you’re projecting.

    Meh…what, in your headcanon, am I “selecting” for? I don’t even know if you got “offended” about socialism or capitalism, I don’t want to debate something I didn’t say.

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