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[–] 37 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I also appreciate the increased security

This hasn't been true for a long, long time. Mac was only ever more secure than windows because not enough people used them to make them worthwhile attack vectors. Nowadays, iOS sees just as many vulnerabilities as every other popular OS.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Report after report finds iOS to be more secure than Android. Here’s just one example: https://www.rokform.com/blogs/rokform-blog/which-is-more-secure-iphone-or-android

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't really call this a "report" when there aren't any metrics in the reasoning other than price.

    Even in their own article, it mentions how support and updates vary by manufacturer so it's kind of meaningless to compare iPhone to the whole Android ecosystem. You'd need to choose one or more manufacturer in order to make an apples to apples comparison.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago

    It was just the first one that came to hand. LOL at this source for another example: https://deepstrike.io/blog/Malware-Attacks-and-Infections-2025

    That claims that Android devices are 50 times more likely to be compromised than iOS. Look at most reports from people like Kasperky & Malwarebytes and they don’t even bother to mention iOS in statistics and only occasionally mention the platform if there is a specific notable threat.

    It can be argued that iOS isn’t as secure as Apple would like you to think or as a lot of Apple users do think, but it really can’t be argued that it’s equally as vulnerable as Android

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Without taking a position on the claim itself, this is a bad citation. It makes a variety of claims that either don't hold up to basic scrutiny, or aren't evidence that iOS has a security advantage. Here are some examples:

    Open-source platform increases vulnerability surface area

    This is perhaps one of the most thoroughly debunked pieces of FUD in the entire tech industry.

    [Various claims about inconsistency between devices]

    These are mostly true but largely irrelevant. You're not buying an aggregate of all Android devices that exist, but a specific device with specific traits. The Android phone you should actually buy will have a security chip and many years of updates just like an iPhone.

    The rigorous app review process and mandatory App Store distribution (except in EU) virtually eliminate malicious app threats for average users.

    This might be a benefit when the user has no clue how to use a computer, but I expect people posting in this community are past that stage. It's a big disadvantage for those who want to use something like Firefox (real Firefox, not a skin on Safari) with potential security and privacy upsides.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Again, specific sources are more or less irrelevant, because all sources agree. Plus, the onus isn’t on me to provide a source which debunks the claim that Android and iOS are equal in terms of vulnerability, the onus is on OP to provide a source which supports their assertion.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Depends on whether you want to convince people of your position, or you're just explaining your own choice. The latter is fine, but the former won't happen without better sources.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Nowadays, iOS sees just as many vulnerabilities as every other popular OS.

    I'm no Apple fanboy but Apple security is more than the OS. Since they also produce all of the hardware, it means they can do things at the hardware level and either make available or restrict things to the OS that Windows cannot do because Microsoft doesn't control all the hardware makers.

    I'm posting this in Asahi Linux on an M2 powered Macbook. Its been an interesting experience learning not only the benefits of this as a hardware platform, but also its limitations from the FOSS point of view.

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