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Proton Leaves Switzerland (www.nzz.ch)
submitted 10 months ago by [B] to c/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
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[–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Haha! Yep, his shareholders told him to shut the fuck up after the massive backlash.

But yeah, you're totally right, this was the one public opinion we know about on X. I'm sure ol'Andy has totally changed his opinions by now.

Heck, he might have even been visited by the ghosts of Edison, Ford, and Musk dear God I wish who all made him see the error of his ways come Christmas morning.

Look mate, you justify your purchases in whichever way we have all been doing using ANY multi cong. corporate controlled online services in this horrible era. I personally like to vote with my wallet and Mr.Yen's company can stuff it. Whether he ends up in Panama or Singapore, I'll still be telling people not to give Proton more money.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Name one more thing the CEO said or did, or that the company Proton said or did after that, that equals what any of the big GAFAM did.

    Finance the elections of a fascist that's destroying democracy? Manipulating people's opinion through their control of near totality of today's most consimed media? Provide financing and tools to genociding nations? Sell your private information for profit? Provide all your personal information to governments without consent or without warrants for no reason? Underpay their employees? Literally hoarding all the world's fortune?

    Go ahead.

    I'm sure that one comment on social media had a HUUUGE impact on the world and probably helped elect a despot and enabled rogue terrorist nations to commit genocides.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    I think what your are trying to say is primarily a whataboutism, and I'm going to guess that no good faith argument will make you want to dig deeper into the company's choices beyond the tweet -which you'll note he has not, to my knowledge, disavowed.

    Sure the comment made the biggest splash, cause all these fuckers think their untouchable, but clearly Yan listens to his PR handlers so he's not going to damage the brand further. At some point you should look at the progressive business choices they've been making over the past few years and you'll see the same pattern used by the FAAMG -or BATX or FAANG or GAFAM- (aggressive acquisitions; more and more proprietary; overt political maneuvers), they are the definition of the enshitification that leads to anti consumer practices. We should be better than this.

    So no, he didn't help elect a despot ( we did that on our own) and no Yan isn't funding terrorists (although I don't know his ties to Prism/Pegasus or Palantir? And pretty sure NSA is cool with him, given he only has beef with Switzerland). Regardless, all these shit headss are definitely not helping.

    Its actually impressive that Proton went the Google full circle of 'do no evil' to removing that adage in less than five years.

    Anyways, enjoy your Proton, bud, you won whatever argument you needed to make, I personally won't be convinced to fund Proton again without a leadership change -and probably not even then.

    Be happy with your loved ones this holidays week, take care.

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