β² 609 βΌ Simple (lemmy.world) submitted 10 months ago by homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world to c/justpost@lemmy.world 267 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] slothrop@lemmy.ca 44 points 10 months ago (6 children) It's a class stuggle. It's that simple. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -10 points 10 months ago (5 children) I thought it was a political struggle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) All political struggle is either bourgeois infighting (flip on the telly to see it), or class war (the ruling class doesn't want you to think about it). The former can be fun to watch at times, the latter is the one which has any chance of improving your material conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 10 months ago (3 children) The struggle of class against class is a what struggle? A what struggle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not sure what the gotcha is. Class struggle is a subset of political struggle, and it is the subset most relevant to you the worker, as outlined by my comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Marx said that every class struggle is a political struggle. This means that, if the proletarians and capitalists are waging an economic struggle against each other today, they will be compelled to wage a political struggle tomorrow and thus protect their respective class interests in a struggle that bears two forms. The capitalists have their particular business interests. And it is to protect these interests that their economic organisations exist. But in addition to their particular business interests, they also have common class interests, namely, to strengthen capitalism. And it is to protect these common interests that they must wage a political struggle and need a political party. Itβs also a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -10 points 10 months ago (5 children) I thought it was a political struggle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) All political struggle is either bourgeois infighting (flip on the telly to see it), or class war (the ruling class doesn't want you to think about it). The former can be fun to watch at times, the latter is the one which has any chance of improving your material conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 10 months ago (3 children) The struggle of class against class is a what struggle? A what struggle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not sure what the gotcha is. Class struggle is a subset of political struggle, and it is the subset most relevant to you the worker, as outlined by my comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Marx said that every class struggle is a political struggle. This means that, if the proletarians and capitalists are waging an economic struggle against each other today, they will be compelled to wage a political struggle tomorrow and thus protect their respective class interests in a struggle that bears two forms. The capitalists have their particular business interests. And it is to protect these interests that their economic organisations exist. But in addition to their particular business interests, they also have common class interests, namely, to strengthen capitalism. And it is to protect these common interests that they must wage a political struggle and need a political party. Itβs also a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago (4 children) All political struggle is either bourgeois infighting (flip on the telly to see it), or class war (the ruling class doesn't want you to think about it). The former can be fun to watch at times, the latter is the one which has any chance of improving your material conditions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 10 months ago (3 children) The struggle of class against class is a what struggle? A what struggle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not sure what the gotcha is. Class struggle is a subset of political struggle, and it is the subset most relevant to you the worker, as outlined by my comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Marx said that every class struggle is a political struggle. This means that, if the proletarians and capitalists are waging an economic struggle against each other today, they will be compelled to wage a political struggle tomorrow and thus protect their respective class interests in a struggle that bears two forms. The capitalists have their particular business interests. And it is to protect these interests that their economic organisations exist. But in addition to their particular business interests, they also have common class interests, namely, to strengthen capitalism. And it is to protect these common interests that they must wage a political struggle and need a political party. Itβs also a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 10 months ago (3 children) The struggle of class against class is a what struggle? A what struggle? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not sure what the gotcha is. Class struggle is a subset of political struggle, and it is the subset most relevant to you the worker, as outlined by my comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Marx said that every class struggle is a political struggle. This means that, if the proletarians and capitalists are waging an economic struggle against each other today, they will be compelled to wage a political struggle tomorrow and thus protect their respective class interests in a struggle that bears two forms. The capitalists have their particular business interests. And it is to protect these interests that their economic organisations exist. But in addition to their particular business interests, they also have common class interests, namely, to strengthen capitalism. And it is to protect these common interests that they must wage a political struggle and need a political party. Itβs also a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] balsoft@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago (2 children) Not sure what the gotcha is. Class struggle is a subset of political struggle, and it is the subset most relevant to you the worker, as outlined by my comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Marx said that every class struggle is a political struggle. This means that, if the proletarians and capitalists are waging an economic struggle against each other today, they will be compelled to wage a political struggle tomorrow and thus protect their respective class interests in a struggle that bears two forms. The capitalists have their particular business interests. And it is to protect these interests that their economic organisations exist. But in addition to their particular business interests, they also have common class interests, namely, to strengthen capitalism. And it is to protect these common interests that they must wage a political struggle and need a political party. Itβs also a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 10 months ago (1 child) Marx said that every class struggle is a political struggle. This means that, if the proletarians and capitalists are waging an economic struggle against each other today, they will be compelled to wage a political struggle tomorrow and thus protect their respective class interests in a struggle that bears two forms. The capitalists have their particular business interests. And it is to protect these interests that their economic organisations exist. But in addition to their particular business interests, they also have common class interests, namely, to strengthen capitalism. And it is to protect these common interests that they must wage a political struggle and need a political party. Itβs also a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) The closest libs come to ever reading theory is asking a chatbot about a Monty Python sketch. permalink fedilink source parent
