FabioTheNewOrder comments on Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Again, tge one on the same side if Carlson and Bannon ia not me, it's you. Also, when china was squashing the Tibetan or the Hong Kong manifestations against their regime do you think all people in the streets were capitalist swines? Or there may have been some workers among the ones who were violently targeted by the Chinese government?

Furthermore, is Taiwan a free country and are it's citizens free to choose their own future without inferences from the Xi regime?

Lastly, do you think LGBT people should be allowed to live their lives as they please or should they be squashed into a black box away from society because their lifestyle does not conform to the standard idea of family?

Looking forward to your totally not fascist opinions on these issues!!! :*

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (6 children)

And yet, both Carlson and Bannon have repeatedly asked to leave Ukraine alone to be conquered by Russia, so they do support your viewpoint on this specific issue and are against mine. So who is in cohort with these figures when it comes to Ukraine?

Are the LGBTQ rights improving also in Russia? What are exactly the improvements you can list for Chinese LGBTQ members in the past few years?

Let's be fair and concede that the stories reported about Tibet were true, wouldn't China be an imperialist country if it invaded Tibet because it didn't accept their way of arranging their society? How come you are ok with this specific imperialist conquest but disagree with the western ones?

Questions without answers and beliefs without logic

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Syrange that you are on the same page of Carlson and Bannon on this very specific topic without any concern whatsoever. But you do you, if you're happy to share the same table as those two more power to you.

I didn't ask you to list Chinese LGBTQ members, I asked you to list laws and rules brought on by the party which have improved the LGBTQ situation in China. Can you cite at least one law going in this direction or not?

People are naturally gay, we don’t choose to be gay at higher ratios in more welcoming environments.

But people are more open to be seen as LGBTQ in welcoming environments or do you think an LGBTQ person will be ready to accept his own sexuality in, say for example, North Korea?

How is it not imperialist to conquer a nation and the starting to use its land for your own profit? Have you ever heard of the mining industry flourishing after the Chinese invasion? And what about the hydropower facilities built in this land? Where did all the extracted resources and the produced energy go? If they didn't go to Tibetans, as they went to china, how is this not imperialist according to your beliefs?

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Directly cited from the report you presented:

According to Li Minyan, a Chinese LGBT advocate and law student at Northwestern University, social pressure to marry someone of the opposite sex is overwhelming, and many LGBT individuals do so and lead a double life. Others enter into marriages of convenience where lesbians and gay men marry each other to escape this pressure. Despite this outward tolerance, a report about the situation facing LGBT people and civil society in China issued by the United Nations and the U.S. government last year flagged a host of serious problems. Chinese LGBT people lack legal protections from discrimination at work and in housing, there is no recognition accorded to same-sex couples, LGBT individuals cannot adopt children, same-sex rape is not a criminal offense and stigma and discrimination are rampant.

Look into the situation with the RPK and then return to me to present your findings, I'm sure homosexual people are living their best lives alongside Kim.

The "development" of Tibet has been mainly enjoyed by the Han people who flicked into the region after its conquest by China. Original Tibetans are still living in the same economical conditions as 100 years ago but in an even worse society as they are seen as "inferior" because they are not of Han origin. But this behaviour is not the behaviour of an imperialist country in your eyes, so everything is fine and don't question authorities

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wonder why it is so difficult to find information about any issue in the DPRK, such a paradise on earth should be more open to disclose its inner working to the world... It's very strange if someone think about it for more than 20 seconds, but this doesn't seem to be a concern of your it would seem.

So if the Chinese bar Tibetans from speaking their language and living their lives according to their customs while also forcing their youth to attend sino-centric schools is progress, but if Ukraine ask its russian citizens ti use Ukrainian as a language when talking with the state is ethnic cleansing. Got it

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Also, you keep talking about slaughter in Ukraine even if I already shown you that under 10 people per year were casualties of the internal war brought forward by the little green men paid by the Kremlin. You are still avoiding this fact and continue to press the button of ethnic cleansing even if there are no wires attached to it as if it were your Linus blanket. Grow up and face the facts, please

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Wouldn't you know, the link to the supposed OCSE report in reality opens a blog page from an uncredited source which does not contain itself any reference to the report you cited. Talk about sources and facts, eh?

Moreover, how many of the victims of this pre-war conflicts were caused by the little green men paid by the Kremlin? I guess you haven't asked yourself this question as it might clash with the alternative reality you live in to justify the russian invasion of Ukraine. Invasion that was not going to happen if we had listened to the russian who ammassed an invading force on Ukraine borders shortly before February 2022 but who then went on for weeks to reiterate that these troops and vehicles were there just for exercising and would habe never been used to invade Ukraine. There are some truth tellers among the russians, that's for sure

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[–] FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Lmao, trusting the report coming from Russia and China about how is fairing the north Korean society is wild. Why don't they accept people from other parts of the world and why, when someone can access their state, this person is not allowed to interact with people without having policemen around? Must be because they have nothing to hide, for sure. If you're interested I've got a bridge to sell you XD

So the forced movement of people from the Tibetan countryside to the inner cities has no bearing on their way of life, which was a nomadic one? How is integration carried out when a custom directly contradicts the mandates from the party?