tyler comments on This is madness

[–] tyler@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First of all, I don't wake up with the sun. Having it rise earlier is better for me to wake up naturally, and the normal time would actually help me get up early enough to enjoy the cooler morning before work.

I’m guessing you meant you do wake up with the sun. It doesn’t matter what time the sun comes up then, just wake up with it and enjoy the cool morning then.

Second, I am just as happy when the sun goes down. In fact, if it didn't go down so fucking late I would have an extra hour of less blazing hot temps as the sun goes down to relax outside before bed.

This literally makes no sense. The temperature will be just as hot at whatever time of day it is no matter whether it’s Standard time or Daylight Saving time.

I would also like to get to sleep at a reasonable hour, but DST makes that harder.

Exactly. Standard time makes this harder. I would like to get sleep at 5 am, a reasonable hour. You do realize the majority of the planet doesn’t go to sleep until after 11pm right? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-bedtime-by-country

You’d literally be forcing the majority of the population to get even less sleep, since the sun would be interrupting their sleep more. If you go to sleep before 11pm you are in the absolute extreme minority.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

First of all, I meant what I wrote. Outside of being forced to wake up early for business hours, I wake up naturally an hour or two after the sun comes up. Right now I get up about when the sun comes up, but early and late in DST the sun doesn't even come up until after I have left for work. So no sun early in the morning before work except right now.

Second, if the sun goes down at 8 pm instead of 9 pm because of DST, it is cooler at 8 pm. If I didn't have to follow DST for work then it wouldn't matter because I could just stay up later and wake up later, but that isn't what we are talking about.

The rest of the world stays up in the summer because of DST. Also, I am expressing my opinion, not the opinion of the world's average. Also, I go to sleep around midnight because the sun is up so fucking late during DST, and then have to drag my ass out of bed in the morning because the sun doesn't come up at the natural time.

If they are sleeping based on the sun, they would probably go to bed earlier and get up earlier, right? It would be easier with the sun going down earlier in the evening!

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[–] tyler@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Those averages have nothing to do with summer. In fact many of those locations don’t obey daylight saving time at all, so no, your point is just incorrect. I understand you are stating your opinion, but your opinion would affect the vast majority of the planet in a negative way. Having people drive to work in the dark is a much better outcome for the majority of the planet than having it get dark when the majority of the planet is doing activities unrelated to work.

Most people don’t sleep based on the sun, they sleep based on their work schedule. That’s why DST is superior, because work schedules will just move earlier to make sure that they’re capturing when people are first waking up, you’ll never get rid of that. What you can do is make it so that it’s light when people are performing after school activities, club sports, events, hanging out with friends, etc.

You can always use blackout curtains, so any argument about sleep is never going to be relevant to this conversation. What is relevant is work and play.

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