you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[+] -86 points 11 months ago (19 children)

I kind of find it funny all these countries with genocidal history getting on their high horse through a music competition, y’all a disaster.

  • source
  • hideshow 19 child comments
  • [–] 72 points 11 months ago* (12 children)

    Fun fact: 100% of countries have done fucked up shit.

    I'm not pointing that out because I think that excuses any of the fucked up shit. It doesn't.

    I'm pointing it out because by the standards of "shut up if your country was ever genocidal", only people from countries with very little power and influence are allowed to try to do or say anything to make the world a better place for those of us not in favor of genocide.

    TL;DR: STFU with that ultra reductionist edgelord bullshit. You're not helping and you're not being clever.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [+] -32 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Im indigenous so 🤷‍♂️

    Can’t really guilt me into disliking all the colonists and their hypocrisy

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 10 child comments
  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago* (9 children)

    Are you saying that indigenous people never warred with others/neighbors and wiped out other tribes? Never raped, never put their enemies into slavery or sold them to other indigenous, or never tortured those they were at war with?

    Because, to me, it sounds like you’re making that case with your comment and that is a bullshit case to be made. Humans are historically awful.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [+] -22 points 11 months ago* (8 children)

    Racist asshole, to think you are actually calling native peoples colonizers

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    Are you suggesting that indigenous peoples have never done any of what I said above?

    I’m not trying to guilt you into sympathizing with colonization. I’m trying to get you to understand that, “I’m indigenous, so only bad things ever happened to people like me because of colonization” is a naive idea to have.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] -5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    No, you're trying to equate to genocidal, "wipe out all indigenous people" with let me check... warring tribes can grouping them all as "all countries do bad things." Which vastly outweighs the evils of the two approach.

    You're not trying to guilt him, you're just trying to wash away your colonialist guilt than anything else.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    No. I’m really not trying to equate that at all. Using “I’m indigenous” as an excuse to imply that you’re beyond criticism is bullshit. Everyone can be criticized. Everyone has skeletons.

    You’re trying to pull words out of nothing. All I was responding to was the whole “ Im indigenous so 🤷‍♂️” comment.

  • source
  • parent
  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    How do you compare warring tribes to the racial genocide of 60+ million? That in itself is why I called you a racist, it’s the low key colonial racism that’s inbeded in your core. No matter what side you take in politics, there are racist takes like that inside you that you don’t realize should stay in your brain.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Because I’m NOT comparing it. You need some serious reading comprehension practice. You’re all riled up for the entirely wrong fucking point that I have repeatedly said I am not arguing.

    Good gravy.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Keep digging that racist hole and calling me names like uneducated. Guess everyone who looks like me is a dum dum to you

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -16 points 11 months ago

    Perspective, you are being very reductionist. Not that i disagree necessarily. Creating a country rarely came from lets all get together and sing happy songs, but there are vast differences among formation of countries, colonialism, and genocide.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    What a dipshit take.

    There is not a single patch of land where humans have lived where atrocities haven't happened. Not one.

    Some countries, though, are committing atrocities right now.

    Equating them is absolutely moronic. What kind of Old Testament whacko are you? Put that "sins of the father will be paid by the son" bullshit in the bin where it belongs.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [+] -13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Your language and rhetoric invalidate al your points

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    It all lip-service actually. These countries (EU and US) have all the political, economic, legal and military power to actually punish Israel but instead they choose to do these meaningless acts. In fact they benefits from this genocide/colonization.

    When someone is at the (benefit) receiving side of colonization process, of course, they would not want to be punished for sins of their father, but they will also not give up on the jewels looted by their father too.

    Now let the downvotes shower begin.

  • source
  • parent