▲ 475 ▼ Woman Hailed as Hero for Smashing Man's Meta Smart Glasses on Subway (futurism.com) submitted 11 months ago by Blaze@piefed.zip to c/privacy@programming.dev 333 comments fedilink hide all child comments A New York subway rider has accused a woman of breaking his Meta smart glasses. She was later hailed as a hero.
[+] Devial@discuss.online 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (7 children) By that logic, its equal to a phone is an equal strawman. It is a way less vital device than a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) It’s really no different Was the initial claim permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children) Yeah, sure, you just claimed that I strawmanned their argument... Cmon. EDIT: Also, who's doing the strawmanning here? I said that "phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not". Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are "marginally convenient" instead of "literally useless". Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of "marginally convenient", thus not being "useful devices that people rely on"? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said "more akin to". Which you took as literal equivalence. This is the wildest pedantry I've witnessed in a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [+] Shortstack@reddthat.com -12 points 11 months ago (6 children) Privacy concerns aside, saying the glasses are literally useless is My eyes glazed over as soon as I read this much. Nothing you say after this matters for a device purpose built for non consensual and inconspicuous invasion of privacy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 16 points 11 months ago* (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) That's the general discourse in this community: ignoramuses flush logic down the shitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) No worse. If they wanted to, structuring a well reasoned argument is challenging. Throwing out psyche bullshit np. Then if ask, OK now structure an equally strong and passionate argument for an opposing view. They'd just mentally be incapable. cuz that doesn't fit into pattern of reactions from a rage addict. Up to now have been strongly defending the guy. But fuck it this is a game. Now i'm her (watch as I get elected to office). We, as a society, a long time ago have consciously chosen to put emphasis on people feelings and avoid behaviors that predictably lead to conflict, demonization, and/or demoralization of minority or disadvantaged groups. Although in other societies these behaviors are tolerated, here they are not. Outsiders projecting their ideals upon us can go fuck themselves and the application of laws that perpetuate the societies we purposefully and intentionally no longer want to be associated with as well as can ill afford. From just the evidence presented and nothing more, it's plain to see this guy is targeting women on trains and it makes us uncomfortable and scared to ride the trains. The guy must be an out of towner cuz everyone here does not act this way. In Japan, there are separate cars for women. This change occurred from the harrassment culture that was perpetuated by manga anime and media. This change was instituted to make women in Japan feel safe again riding public transport and does not overly inconvenience men folk cuz it's only enforced during rush hours. Someone claiming they can do whatever they want cuz it's a public space is not acceptable here and shouldn't be. It breeds a confrontational society of self righteous warmongers that throws everyone but them into unsustainable unlivable lives. I'm surprised they don't all live in tents due to unaffordable housing while we find housing from people who really no longer need it. I like a roof over my head thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I get that, but don't you get satisfaction raising inconvenient facts with rage addicts to lift their irrational outrage beyond orbit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) That isn't what it is! That's like pointing at a 3d printer and calling it a gun manufacturing station. Sure, it can be used for that, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] obre@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Not sure exactly how serious you are, but you can use a 3D printer without making guns. You cannot use cameras like these in public without massively invading people's privacy. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (7 children) By that logic, its equal to a phone is an equal strawman. It is a way less vital device than a phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) It’s really no different Was the initial claim permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children) Yeah, sure, you just claimed that I strawmanned their argument... Cmon. EDIT: Also, who's doing the strawmanning here? I said that "phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not". Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are "marginally convenient" instead of "literally useless". Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of "marginally convenient", thus not being "useful devices that people rely on"? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said "more akin to". Which you took as literal equivalence. This is the wildest pedantry I've witnessed in a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) It’s really no different Was the initial claim permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children) Yeah, sure, you just claimed that I strawmanned their argument... Cmon. EDIT: Also, who's doing the strawmanning here? I said that "phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not". Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are "marginally convenient" instead of "literally useless". Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of "marginally convenient", thus not being "useful devices that people rely on"? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said "more akin to". Which you took as literal equivalence. This is the wildest pedantry I've witnessed in a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) It’s really no different Was the initial claim permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children) Yeah, sure, you just claimed that I strawmanned their argument... Cmon. EDIT: Also, who's doing the strawmanning here? I said that "phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not". Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are "marginally convenient" instead of "literally useless". Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of "marginally convenient", thus not being "useful devices that people rely on"? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said "more akin to". Which you took as literal equivalence. This is the wildest pedantry I've witnessed in a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children) Yeah, sure, you just claimed that I strawmanned their argument... Cmon. EDIT: Also, who's doing the strawmanning here? I said that "phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not". Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are "marginally convenient" instead of "literally useless". Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of "marginally convenient", thus not being "useful devices that people rely on"? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said "more akin to". Which you took as literal equivalence. This is the wildest pedantry I've witnessed in a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children) Yeah, sure, you just claimed that I strawmanned their argument... Cmon. EDIT: Also, who's doing the strawmanning here? I said that "phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not". Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are "marginally convenient" instead of "literally useless". Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of "marginally convenient", thus not being "useful devices that people rely on"? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said "more akin to". Which you took as literal equivalence. This is the wildest pedantry I've witnessed in a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (4 children) If it makes you happy you can think you won the argument permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) See my previous comment about strawmanning, mr. "I learned about logical fallacies 5 days ago" EDIT: So mad you come and check the replies within 5 minutes just to downvote? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago Reply point by point: Also, who’s doing the strawmanning here? I said that “phones are useful devices that people rely on, while [smart glasses] are not”. Then, you went on a tirade how I said that smart glasses are “marginally convenient” instead of “literally useless”. Did I say that they are literally useless? Or rather, implied that they are something along the lines of “marginally convenient”, thus not being “useful devices that people rely on”? Also, I did not say anything about equivalence. I said “more akin to”. Which you took as literal equivalence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (1 child) Can you read? If yes, read my previous comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 months ago Well, you never actually addressed the points. But if expecting that is "being a dick", well, whatever.. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Shortstack@reddthat.com -12 points 11 months ago (6 children) Privacy concerns aside, saying the glasses are literally useless is My eyes glazed over as soon as I read this much. Nothing you say after this matters for a device purpose built for non consensual and inconspicuous invasion of privacy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Devial@discuss.online 16 points 11 months ago* (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) That's the general discourse in this community: ignoramuses flush logic down the shitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) No worse. If they wanted to, structuring a well reasoned argument is challenging. Throwing out psyche bullshit np. Then if ask, OK now structure an equally strong and passionate argument for an opposing view. They'd just mentally be incapable. cuz that doesn't fit into pattern of reactions from a rage addict. Up to now have been strongly defending the guy. But fuck it this is a game. Now i'm her (watch as I get elected to office). We, as a society, a long time ago have consciously chosen to put emphasis on people feelings and avoid behaviors that predictably lead to conflict, demonization, and/or demoralization of minority or disadvantaged groups. Although in other societies these behaviors are tolerated, here they are not. Outsiders projecting their ideals upon us can go fuck themselves and the application of laws that perpetuate the societies we purposefully and intentionally no longer want to be associated with as well as can ill afford. From just the evidence presented and nothing more, it's plain to see this guy is targeting women on trains and it makes us uncomfortable and scared to ride the trains. The guy must be an out of towner cuz everyone here does not act this way. In Japan, there are separate cars for women. This change occurred from the harrassment culture that was perpetuated by manga anime and media. This change was instituted to make women in Japan feel safe again riding public transport and does not overly inconvenience men folk cuz it's only enforced during rush hours. Someone claiming they can do whatever they want cuz it's a public space is not acceptable here and shouldn't be. It breeds a confrontational society of self righteous warmongers that throws everyone but them into unsustainable unlivable lives. I'm surprised they don't all live in tents due to unaffordable housing while we find housing from people who really no longer need it. I like a roof over my head thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I get that, but don't you get satisfaction raising inconvenient facts with rage addicts to lift their irrational outrage beyond orbit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) That isn't what it is! That's like pointing at a 3d printer and calling it a gun manufacturing station. Sure, it can be used for that, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] obre@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Not sure exactly how serious you are, but you can use a 3D printer without making guns. You cannot use cameras like these in public without massively invading people's privacy. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Devial@discuss.online 16 points 11 months ago* (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) That's the general discourse in this community: ignoramuses flush logic down the shitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) No worse. If they wanted to, structuring a well reasoned argument is challenging. Throwing out psyche bullshit np. Then if ask, OK now structure an equally strong and passionate argument for an opposing view. They'd just mentally be incapable. cuz that doesn't fit into pattern of reactions from a rage addict. Up to now have been strongly defending the guy. But fuck it this is a game. Now i'm her (watch as I get elected to office). We, as a society, a long time ago have consciously chosen to put emphasis on people feelings and avoid behaviors that predictably lead to conflict, demonization, and/or demoralization of minority or disadvantaged groups. Although in other societies these behaviors are tolerated, here they are not. Outsiders projecting their ideals upon us can go fuck themselves and the application of laws that perpetuate the societies we purposefully and intentionally no longer want to be associated with as well as can ill afford. From just the evidence presented and nothing more, it's plain to see this guy is targeting women on trains and it makes us uncomfortable and scared to ride the trains. The guy must be an out of towner cuz everyone here does not act this way. In Japan, there are separate cars for women. This change occurred from the harrassment culture that was perpetuated by manga anime and media. This change was instituted to make women in Japan feel safe again riding public transport and does not overly inconvenience men folk cuz it's only enforced during rush hours. Someone claiming they can do whatever they want cuz it's a public space is not acceptable here and shouldn't be. It breeds a confrontational society of self righteous warmongers that throws everyone but them into unsustainable unlivable lives. I'm surprised they don't all live in tents due to unaffordable housing while we find housing from people who really no longer need it. I like a roof over my head thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I get that, but don't you get satisfaction raising inconvenient facts with rage addicts to lift their irrational outrage beyond orbit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) That's the general discourse in this community: ignoramuses flush logic down the shitter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) No worse. If they wanted to, structuring a well reasoned argument is challenging. Throwing out psyche bullshit np. Then if ask, OK now structure an equally strong and passionate argument for an opposing view. They'd just mentally be incapable. cuz that doesn't fit into pattern of reactions from a rage addict. Up to now have been strongly defending the guy. But fuck it this is a game. Now i'm her (watch as I get elected to office). We, as a society, a long time ago have consciously chosen to put emphasis on people feelings and avoid behaviors that predictably lead to conflict, demonization, and/or demoralization of minority or disadvantaged groups. Although in other societies these behaviors are tolerated, here they are not. Outsiders projecting their ideals upon us can go fuck themselves and the application of laws that perpetuate the societies we purposefully and intentionally no longer want to be associated with as well as can ill afford. From just the evidence presented and nothing more, it's plain to see this guy is targeting women on trains and it makes us uncomfortable and scared to ride the trains. The guy must be an out of towner cuz everyone here does not act this way. In Japan, there are separate cars for women. This change occurred from the harrassment culture that was perpetuated by manga anime and media. This change was instituted to make women in Japan feel safe again riding public transport and does not overly inconvenience men folk cuz it's only enforced during rush hours. Someone claiming they can do whatever they want cuz it's a public space is not acceptable here and shouldn't be. It breeds a confrontational society of self righteous warmongers that throws everyone but them into unsustainable unlivable lives. I'm surprised they don't all live in tents due to unaffordable housing while we find housing from people who really no longer need it. I like a roof over my head thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I get that, but don't you get satisfaction raising inconvenient facts with rage addicts to lift their irrational outrage beyond orbit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] logging_strict@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) No worse. If they wanted to, structuring a well reasoned argument is challenging. Throwing out psyche bullshit np. Then if ask, OK now structure an equally strong and passionate argument for an opposing view. They'd just mentally be incapable. cuz that doesn't fit into pattern of reactions from a rage addict. Up to now have been strongly defending the guy. But fuck it this is a game. Now i'm her (watch as I get elected to office). We, as a society, a long time ago have consciously chosen to put emphasis on people feelings and avoid behaviors that predictably lead to conflict, demonization, and/or demoralization of minority or disadvantaged groups. Although in other societies these behaviors are tolerated, here they are not. Outsiders projecting their ideals upon us can go fuck themselves and the application of laws that perpetuate the societies we purposefully and intentionally no longer want to be associated with as well as can ill afford. From just the evidence presented and nothing more, it's plain to see this guy is targeting women on trains and it makes us uncomfortable and scared to ride the trains. The guy must be an out of towner cuz everyone here does not act this way. In Japan, there are separate cars for women. This change occurred from the harrassment culture that was perpetuated by manga anime and media. This change was instituted to make women in Japan feel safe again riding public transport and does not overly inconvenience men folk cuz it's only enforced during rush hours. Someone claiming they can do whatever they want cuz it's a public space is not acceptable here and shouldn't be. It breeds a confrontational society of self righteous warmongers that throws everyone but them into unsustainable unlivable lives. I'm surprised they don't all live in tents due to unaffordable housing while we find housing from people who really no longer need it. I like a roof over my head thank you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I get that, but don't you get satisfaction raising inconvenient facts with rage addicts to lift their irrational outrage beyond orbit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I get that, but don't you get satisfaction raising inconvenient facts with rage addicts to lift their irrational outrage beyond orbit? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago I get satisfaction by designing complex systems and being tortured by static type checkers. So political pr0n, video games, or 2D chart p0rn does not do it for me. Don't expect my motivations to be the same as those listed addictions. In a world covered in smartphone addicts, it's really hard to imagine someone completely devoid of those addictions. A rage addict is just someone suffering from a design flaw. I recognize they exist just like trees. A tree producing imperfect fruit does not bug me. The rage addict needs to become capable of weening themselves off the juice. I'm a white hatter. Exploiting system flaws is black hatter. Hope de-assembling nonsense arguments has been helpful. At one time, thought feeding a rage addict would burn out their rage addiction by having them exhaust themselves. All about coming to the conclusion that it's not worth the effort. But that assumes they can learn, want to learn, or want to adapt/change permanently. Rage addicts need to recognize they are being played. Until then it's just a broken record on a loop. This works on any negative emotion. It takes heightened energy to sustain. So fight a war of attrition knowing you'll exhaust your opponent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) That isn't what it is! That's like pointing at a 3d printer and calling it a gun manufacturing station. Sure, it can be used for that, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] obre@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Not sure exactly how serious you are, but you can use a 3D printer without making guns. You cannot use cameras like these in public without massively invading people's privacy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] obre@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Not sure exactly how serious you are, but you can use a 3D printer without making guns. You cannot use cameras like these in public without massively invading people's privacy. permalink fedilink source parent