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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I don’t and it shows in our gun deaths compared to every other developed country.

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[–] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Once you subtract suicides, self-defense, justifiable homicides, officer involved shootings, and accidents, what you're left with is a statistic that indicates 100% of gun violence is caused by less than 1% of gun owners.

Overall, the vast, VAST majority of gun owners in the US are safe and do make good choices.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago

We shouldn't discount suicides imo. It's tempting to say that a person who wants to kill themself will find a way, but the reality is that when you take away the quickest, easiest route, most people end up not committing suicide

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago

The justifiable homicides would contain the officer involved shootings (presuming they were legal). Those are still violent acts compared to suicides and accidents which make up the overwhelming majority of gun deaths.

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[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah fuck suicidal people and anyone killed by cops they had it coming. Jesus christ.

As for "justifiable homicide", you mean like... when the other guy had a gun... You want to discount those deaths why?

If we take your number at face value. This is kind of a trolley problem thing right. Should 99 people get to have a nice day out at the range once a month, which they could easily replace with any other leisure activity, if it means one person has to die violently. If you honestly like those odds then fair play mad max.

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

Worlds largest prison population with highest murder rate of any developed country wants guns to be available like candy… lol

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The biggest problem with the American Constitution is the right to bear arms, IMO. I'm not American so take this with a grain of salt, but think of the dumbest person you've met, would you trust them with a gun? Probably not.

It shouldn't be a right to own a gun. I'm not saying the barrier should be all that high, but you should be required to prove that you're more intelligent than an oak tree to own one.

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[–] OshaqHennessey@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

No, the biggest problem (IMO) is that we enshrine the right to bear arms, but mandate no education about firearms in public school. If we're going to embrace guns the same way we do cars, we should teach "shooter's ed" the same way we teach "driver's ed."

The second biggest problem is, even though most Americans agree that the root causes of violence need to be addressed (poverty, homelessness, unemployment, mental health, etc.) the sad reality of our political system is that these interests aren't represented because capitalists have hijacked our government for their own benefit.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Tbh some schools used to, kinda. All the ones around me used to have a rifle team until the early-mid 00s (some got rid of it earlier). I'm not sure they're allowed to anymore now that schools are federally mandated gun free zones (which seems to be the only thing that mandate stopped by the looks of it.)