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‘End-to-end encrypted’ smart toilet camera is not actually end-to-end encrypted (techcrunch.com)
submitted 11 months ago by [B] to c/pulse_of_truth@infosec.pub
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Kohler, the makers of a smart toilet camera, can access customers' data stored on its servers, and can use customers’ bowl pictures to train AI.

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[–] 5 points 11 months ago (9 children)

What could they possibly tell me about my health by visually inspecting my shit? I see the website mentions detecting blood, but pretty sure I can do that too...

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    The colour can say a lot of different things than just showing blood in your stool.

    Also, if you have red blood in your toilet after shitting, it's probably a popped hemorrhoid, but if your shit is black and tarry, that's digested blood, could be from an upper GI-bleed.

    If your shit is orange/yellowish and floaty, youre clearly not absorbing fat correctly for some reason.

    There's all sorts of things you can tell from shit. I've actually logged hundreds of photos of shit to an e-mail address (because I want to store them but not in my phone's gallery).

    I'm waiting on going to a good gastroenterologist hopefully.

    But idk if I'd trust an ai analysing them, but proper doctors should be able to.

    Edit here https://gutscharity.org.uk/advice-and-information/poo-torial/

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    The size, shape, consistency, color are all telling of something going on.

    Tie that in with tracking changes in diet and can learn a lot.

    Tracking what you eat in detail is still a bitch though.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Tracking what you eat in detail is still a bitch though.

    For this too, the camera is kinda helpful. Just snap a photo and the write it down later. Or don't write it down and just have the photos there and "I'm sure I'll remember when I look at it"

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

    Would you consider spending $600 plus $7/month for this? (Assuming it was actually secure not like this one)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    You asked about what they could possibly tell about your health from your excrement, not what my monthly budget is...

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    No, I know. I didn't see any possible market for a product like this, but you shared you're already doing what this product does, but manually. So I was wondering how much value you see here.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I imagine a lot more people would benefit from passive monitoring of poop than just I.

    I pretty much figured out my issue and now I've just been documenting it because the doctors genuinely believe the opposite of whatever I tell them, so I have to have photographic evidence and even that doesn't usually help. (Finnish healthcare sucks. Is the price bad? No, it's free. Does it achieve anything? Also no. Especially when it comes to mental health.

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