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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I should add, those who defend China and USSR as if they can't do anything wrong are DEFINITELY tankies.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (12 children)

those who defend China and USSR as if they can’t do anything wrong

I've yet to see anyone - left, right, or center - that has suggested an entire country's worth of people has never done anything wrong in its history.

"Tankie" has a real, actual, honest to god historical definition. Its not just "people who liked the Soviet system more than the capitalist system". Its an explicit advocacy for non-interventionism during the Cold War. Specifically, it is British progressives who didn't want the UK sending support to Hungarian reactionaries during the 1956 revolt.

The British media portrayed any reluctance to intercede on behalf of anti-communists abroad as pro-Khrushchev puppets who wanted to see Russian tanks flatten all of Europe. That's what a "Tankie" is supposed to mean. It's a person accused (by anti-soviet British media) of wanting a Soviet conquest of the planet.

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (9 children)

If you definition hasn't evolved since the 50s it might be a little out of date. That definition could draw retirement at this point.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (8 children)

If you definition hasn’t evolved since the 50s

How do you read English?

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Not the same as old or middle English I'll tell you that. I also don't speak Latin or Germanic despite those being the origin of many of the words I use.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

Not the same as old or middle English I’ll tell you that.

Did you drop a decimal point? Middle English isn't 50 years old. Hell, the Transatlantic Accent isn't 50 years old.

I also don’t speak Latin or Germanic

You'll never make it as a proper Catholic.

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

Are you trying to argue that language is static? Because we both know that's bullshit. Especially when it comes to slang. At this point I don't know what you're trying to argue. It seems like you're trying to derail the conversation instead of defending your position.

We're also talking about 70 years ago. It's hard to remember that the 90s weren't 10 years ago, but let's stay on topic.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Are you trying to argue that language is static?

I'm pointing out a term's historical roots. You just seem to be arguing through hyperbole. FFS, even if you don't want to acknowledge the existence of Latin, you might at least recognize the existence of etymology as a field.

We’re also talking about 70 years ago.

Brother, wait till you find out how old Arabic numerals are.

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

Not for the last 3 replies you haven't. If that's your only point then we aren't in disagreement. You and I both know where the term originated. It seems like you're fighting the idea that it could change since then. If that's the case I'll reiterate, language changes. Slang changes faster than most.

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