It is entirely possible that the entire construct of copyright just isn't fit to regulate this and the "right to train" or to avoid training needs to be formulated separately.

The maximalist, knee-jerk assumption that all AI training is copying is feeding into the interests of, ironically, a bunch of AI companies. That doesn't mean that actual authors and artists don't have an interest in regulating this space.

The big takeaway, in my book, is copyright is finally broken beyond all usability. Let's scrap it and start over with the media landscape we actually have, not the eighteenth century version of it.

Yeah, I guess the debate is which is the lesser evil. I didn't make the original comment but I think this is what they were getting at.

The companies like record studio who already own all the copyrights aren't going to pay creators for something they already owned.

All the data has already been signed away. People are really optimistic about an industry that has consistently fucked everyone they interact with for money.