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I wonder if there were any repeat suitors... Medieval Period (~1000 AD) (media.piefed.social)
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[–] [S] 13 points 11 months ago (17 children)

A hundred horses is a steep price even for a Mongol noble to lose for a nondescript favor - and the marriage of a Mongol princess is a high prize to be won.

That she was a highly accomplished warrior as well suggests that her prowess was legitimate, considering that the enemy on the battlefield was unlikely to 'play nice'.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    That she was a highly accomplished warrior as well suggests that her prowess was legitimate, considering that the enemy on the battlefield was unlikely to 'play nice'.

    Im sorry but the difference of raw strength makes this story bullshit. No way they didnt lose on purpose of they just lied about the outcome.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Right, and I'm sure that the men she captured on the battlefield were just really invested in proving the enemy royalty's war prowess at the expense of their own reputation and, potentially, lives.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    "she" didn't capture men on the battlefield. She led an army. Big difference.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 11 months ago

    Sometimes she would quit her father’s side, and make a dash at the host of the enemy, and seize some man thereout, as deftly as a hawk pounces on a bird, and carry him to her father; and this she did many a time.

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  • [–] -5 points 11 months ago

    Yeah it’s gotta be fantastical. I know some women who are incredible athletes and could defeat 99% of men… but not 100%. There’s just a reality, and especially in strength sports like wrestling, and the Mongolian style at that, where size is the winning factor and men can just get much bigger than any woman and overwhelm them.

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  • [–] -5 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    No woman known for being beautiful is nearly as strong as a strong man. Wrestling is very much a skill, but there's a reason there's so many weight classes. I wrestled for several years. Strength can overcome skill.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe she had a bodybuilder build, and those Mongols thought that was hot af.

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  • [–] -5 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Or maybe she was butt ass ugly but everyone liked keeping their heads rather than insult a princess.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    It's a trap to think 1) there's just one standard of beauty and 2) one objective standard spans all centuries.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    one objective standard spans all centuries.

    The best example of this not being the case is found in renaissance art. Beautiful women were depicted as chubby by our standards because extra weight meant being wealthy. This standard changed during the Reformation when gluttony started being seen as a sin and a sign of depravity of the Catholic church. From then on, the standard of female beauty shifted towards thinness.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    It doesn't matter. We're talking about the possibility of a woman existing that had 100 different men who thought they could defeat her in a wrestling match, wagering up a thousand horses each. A challenge that spanned over years. As her reputation if defeating all these dudes would spread and be known, after the first ten or twenty guys were defeated, the only challengers (if they were actually intending to win) would have been almost nothing but large and strong guys experienced in wrestling.

    There just isn't any way that would happen.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Those goalposts far enough back for ya, or do you wanna keep movin' 'em?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    You're the one who tried changing the argument off of my original post, bro.

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