theneverfox comments on no increase in radiation following US airstrikes on Iran's nuclear

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm sure you're not an engineer now lol

Do you think the physics of nukes is widely shared, accurately? That no one spread a few incorrect formulas to reduce proliferation? If you can't test along the way, you need to know exactly how it works.

Without help or the ability to experiment, they're doing it on hard mode. These are worse conditions with less funding... The only advantage they have is knowing for sure it's possible

And as far as MAD... Do you think Israel has ever been inspected? Of course not. Because the game has changed

Optics are more important than reality. Right now, the intelligence community doesn't think they're close to a bomb. If that opinion were reversed, that's just as good as having a bomb

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

Do you think the physics of nukes is widely shared, accurately?

What nukes? They aren't all the same, and plain old fission bombs are not actually that complicated. Iran is also an ally of Russia and North Korea, both of which have been in the nuclear club for quite some time now. Fusion bombs are a hell of a lot more complicated. Getting optimum yields from either is complicated. There are no secrets at this point about how to make a minimally functional (as used in Japan) fission bomb.

And as far as MAD... Do you think Israel has ever been inspected?

Israel doesn't even admit to having them. They don't need them for MAD. Israel's promise of overwhelming retaliation comes from it's alliance with the US. They have nukes because they want the option. If the US ever abandoned Israel, I guarantee they would let the world know they have them, and they would do a test, or they would have someone inspect them, just like every other nuclear power did before using them as a deterrent.

Right now, the intelligence community doesn't think they're close to a bomb. If that opinion were reversed, that's just as good as having a bomb.

Or it's an invitation to be bombed and/or invaded before they get there.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Okay... Now I think we're starting to coverage

Yes, what nuke design exactly? You need someone who can tell you that, then follow all the way through while never testing your work

Israel does get a pass... Because people believe they have nukes. What kind? Who knows, it literally doesn't matter because everyone believes it

It's both way simpler and way more complicated than you seen to think

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago

Nobody told the US how to do it or handed them a design. They did do a test, but it worked on the very first try. All Iran would have to do is do as well as America did and, despite what you think, knowledge of how to make it is readily available.

The hardest part are the extremely high tolerance detonators. They can test those in secret all day long. That's where 75 years of progress in engineering makes the job a whole lot easier too. Modern electronics will also make it a lot easier for them to know when they get it right, without having to set off a nuke.

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