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[–] 16 points 11 months ago (14 children)

The majority of gamers game at 1080p. Both on PCs, and especially on consoles. Most people's TVs aren't even big enough for people with average eyesight to see a difference between 1080p and 2160p.

So the question to ask is if the steam deck is too slow, because the steam machine at 1080p will solidly beat the steam deck at 800p.

If you want something faster for desktop, just build a matx mid tower with a 9070xt. It'll cost double, but you'll be able to game in 2160p.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's fake upscaled 4k from 1080, though.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Fascinating. Is that how the ps5 and Xbox whatever work?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    The PS5 has 4K native support since it has better hardware to go along with its bigger size. It also support 4K AI upscaling from 1080, so in some cases it's the same, although likely with more FPS. The XBox is probably more of the same.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Most people's TVs aren't even big enough for people with average eyesight to see a difference between 1080p and 2160p.

    Why do people keep repeating something so easily disprovable? You can tell 1080p and 1440p apart on a laptop, let alone 1080p to 4k on a TV.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    It really depends on your viewing distance and the size of the display. If you're sitting 15 feet away fom a 55 inch TV, the difference between 1440p and 4k is going to be a lot less noticable than when you're 2 feet from a 32 inch monitor.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's all about PPI. Pixels per inch.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Usually when people post a source, the numbers say that at median screen sizes and distances from the screen, 4K isn't perceptibly better than 1440p, and the person writing it up as an article has misunderstood the conclusion as saying 4K isn't better than 1080p rather than that it isn't better than 1440p. TVs tend not to be made with 1440p resolution, so upgrading from 1080p gets you right to 4K, skipping the sweet spot.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    If you have 20/20 vision, you need to sit 2 meters away from a 55" to be able to tell the pixels apart. You might see some improvement from 4K but it wont be that significant. If you are 3-4 meters away, you need a bigger TV if you want to start thinking about gaming in 4K.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    3 meters away from a 55" TV gives you a very poor 23 degree viewing angle, let alone 4. The maximum SMPTE recommended viewing distance for that screen size in 16:9 is 2.3m.

    In other words, for 4K to stop being perceivable, you have to make your experience worse in other ways.

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