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[–] 17 points 11 months ago (14 children)

This thing has 1/6th the ongoing utility cost of a spec’d out gaming pc (assuming 850w psu and something like 4090 and 7900x3d). Granted it’s not much to run a pc like that, like 15-20 a month, but running this thing will cost like $2-3 at most. Its power supply is 43% smaller than a ps5s.

Not gonna be the deciding factor for most people but something to consider. Does 4k120 really matter vs 4k60? Do you really need to turn every slider to ultra? In a world that is boiling with energy costs that are ever increasing?

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    In my humble opinion, 4k is a bit of a joke. I pick a high as possible frame rate over 4k any day of the week.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    With AAA game graphics, 4K is kind of silly.

    It kind of makes sense on consoles with fixed hardware when the devs design specifically to hit that target.

    On a PC, I think high framerate 1440p is a much more reasonable goal, but frame generation and upscaling are sold to consumers like some magical solution to poor performance instead.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I tried playing Dispatch on my TV in 4k, and it sounded and felt like my laptop was going to catch on fire.

    Lowered the TVs resolution to 1080p, and the game looks exactly the same and the fans barely even turn on.

    That could be an optimization issue though I guess.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    4k is 4x the resolution of 1080p, so that's not totally surprising. Good thing you did this too, because I was reading some comments just the other day about people's gaming laptops failing because of repeated/prolongued overheating.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Power optimization of chips has long been good enough to make that a completely moot point. Unless you're doing something 100% of the time like crypto mining, or extremely pressed on the price of power, it doesn't matter.

    Even top of the line CPUs and GPUs idle at extremely low wattage.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Like running a video game at 4k120 with ray tracing for 4-6 hours straight? Bc that’s the use case, not idle

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children)

    You're getting a direct use out of that power, then. It's also dependant on the hardware in it. I can run 4k gaming all day and never break 1kw, because I don't use nVidia that just throws more and more power at their problems instead of engineering them away.

    (even they still do not idle at crazy power usage, too)

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You’re missing the point:

    4090 with 7900x3d and 850w psu running games at max will generally use about 550w. The same build swapping in a rx 7900xtx is ever so slightly more economical at around 520w. Getting into pissing matches about brand loyalty (when they’re both companies that will ultimately fuck you over for another cent) is stupid, and doesn’t change that this box, if accurate to advertising, does 80% of the work they do at 140w under load (essentially 1/4 the power of your precious amd, which you’d still be using here btw).

    It would matter more for the environment if tons of gamers actually had these GPUs but based on what valve is saying here (and the fact that as others have said they likely have very good statistics on the machines accessing steam) they likely don’t. Most fancy GPUs probably go to crypto farms and llm bullshit, which is dumb and means this doesn’t really matter I guess

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