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[–] village604@adultswim.fan -3 points 1 year ago (23 children) Those companies bribe doctors and scientists all the time. Still not a good reason to be antivax, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago (5 children) As a scientist, my colleagues and I are still waiting for our bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Conservatives have done so much damage by somehow convincing (tens of?) millions of people that academia is like organized crime or some shit. Like they're shaking down pharmaceutical companies, and lying about research for extra cash on the side. It's so fucking stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think part of the problem is there are real fraud issues in academia and research, but your average American is woefully, what I'd call aggressively, science illiterate. Since they aren't familiar with even the basics behind processes like funding and peer review, their personal narrative seems to substitute whatever kinds of fraud they're already familiar with, generally theft or bribes, despite it making no goddamn sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* Even worse, they're conditioned to be actively hostile towards it. Despite taking advantage of the fruits of all that research on a daily basis without even thinking twice about it. So many of them take it as a personal affront if anyone even suggests that they might know more than them about something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) As a prof, can I have a bit on the side? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Absolutely, you can have half of whatever I get! permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) What fucking bribes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (9 children) The ones pharmaceutical reps give. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've got questions. So many questions. Edit: unsurprisingly, they had no answers. Do all scientists get universal bribe income (UBI) to hush up? Do they get bonus bribes when it's their turn to fabricate results? Holy shit, is this inadvertently the world's biggest UBI experiment? Who is being bribed not to release that data? How do these bribes work? Do they specifically bribe researchers and all members of their peer review committees? Do they bribe lab assistants to ignore reported findings incongruent with their observed lab results? How do these pharmaceutical reps keep other scientists from alerting the public after analyzing this fraudulent data or replicating similarly fraudulent experiments? There are over nine million full-time researchers employed in science R&D worldwide. Even with what must be at least a trillion dollars in annual bribes, someone's bound to get a little drunk and say too much. Why don't any of them or the tens of millions of support staff blow the whistle on the whole deal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (7 children) Research scientists aren't bribed by pharmaceutical companies. That's not a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (6 children) I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had access to the financials of every research scientist in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) OK so let me get this straight: You believe that the overwhelming majority of scientists with intimate knowledge of mRNA vaccine technology are ALL part of a conspiracy that involves them all accepting bribes from big pharma in order to lie about its safety? That's really just not how any of it works. Even if it did exist in any capacity, there's no possible way that it would be able to be kept secret with so many people involved, not to mention the fact that there are still scientists with integrity (I would say most of them, in actuality) who would blow the whistle immediately. I think you need to take a step back and try to take a critical look at the reasons why you would believe such a thing, and how you came to that conclusion. Because it has zero basis in reality, and the results of this kind of thinking literally leads to people (primarily children) dying or being otherwise impaired for life, for absolutely no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children) Ex-wife was an OR nurse. The drug company reps would hang around the hospital and take everyone out to party after work. They'd sling free samples by day, $1,000 bar/restaurant tabs at night, all expensed. And they made bank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Yea... Those guys weren't selling vaccines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Moving goalposts? I was replying to: Those companies bribe doctors and scientists all the time. And I gave an example of them bribing doctors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, pointing out that no one is pushing vaxx for money. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You're splitting hairs. When I go to the doc who says, "Look. I took money for a different drug from a different company, not for vaccines from this company," I'm more than little disgusted. So I can give a little understanding to someone who doesn't have the scientific background like I do when they dismiss the whole system as corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Yeah. .. but they are the same companies selling them this is well documented permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago (5 children) As a scientist, my colleagues and I are still waiting for our bribes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Conservatives have done so much damage by somehow convincing (tens of?) millions of people that academia is like organized crime or some shit. Like they're shaking down pharmaceutical companies, and lying about research for extra cash on the side. It's so fucking stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think part of the problem is there are real fraud issues in academia and research, but your average American is woefully, what I'd call aggressively, science illiterate. Since they aren't familiar with even the basics behind processes like funding and peer review, their personal narrative seems to substitute whatever kinds of fraud they're already familiar with, generally theft or bribes, despite it making no goddamn sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* Even worse, they're conditioned to be actively hostile towards it. Despite taking advantage of the fruits of all that research on a daily basis without even thinking twice about it. So many of them take it as a personal affront if anyone even suggests that they might know more than them about something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) As a prof, can I have a bit on the side? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Absolutely, you can have half of whatever I get! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Conservatives have done so much damage by somehow convincing (tens of?) millions of people that academia is like organized crime or some shit. Like they're shaking down pharmaceutical companies, and lying about research for extra cash on the side. It's so fucking stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think part of the problem is there are real fraud issues in academia and research, but your average American is woefully, what I'd call aggressively, science illiterate. Since they aren't familiar with even the basics behind processes like funding and peer review, their personal narrative seems to substitute whatever kinds of fraud they're already familiar with, generally theft or bribes, despite it making no goddamn sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* Even worse, they're conditioned to be actively hostile towards it. Despite taking advantage of the fruits of all that research on a daily basis without even thinking twice about it. So many of them take it as a personal affront if anyone even suggests that they might know more than them about something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) I think part of the problem is there are real fraud issues in academia and research, but your average American is woefully, what I'd call aggressively, science illiterate. Since they aren't familiar with even the basics behind processes like funding and peer review, their personal narrative seems to substitute whatever kinds of fraud they're already familiar with, generally theft or bribes, despite it making no goddamn sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* Even worse, they're conditioned to be actively hostile towards it. Despite taking advantage of the fruits of all that research on a daily basis without even thinking twice about it. So many of them take it as a personal affront if anyone even suggests that they might know more than them about something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* Even worse, they're conditioned to be actively hostile towards it. Despite taking advantage of the fruits of all that research on a daily basis without even thinking twice about it. So many of them take it as a personal affront if anyone even suggests that they might know more than them about something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) As a prof, can I have a bit on the side? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Absolutely, you can have half of whatever I get! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Absolutely, you can have half of whatever I get! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (10 children) What fucking bribes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (9 children) The ones pharmaceutical reps give. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've got questions. So many questions. Edit: unsurprisingly, they had no answers. Do all scientists get universal bribe income (UBI) to hush up? Do they get bonus bribes when it's their turn to fabricate results? Holy shit, is this inadvertently the world's biggest UBI experiment? Who is being bribed not to release that data? How do these bribes work? Do they specifically bribe researchers and all members of their peer review committees? Do they bribe lab assistants to ignore reported findings incongruent with their observed lab results? How do these pharmaceutical reps keep other scientists from alerting the public after analyzing this fraudulent data or replicating similarly fraudulent experiments? There are over nine million full-time researchers employed in science R&D worldwide. Even with what must be at least a trillion dollars in annual bribes, someone's bound to get a little drunk and say too much. Why don't any of them or the tens of millions of support staff blow the whistle on the whole deal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (7 children) Research scientists aren't bribed by pharmaceutical companies. That's not a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (6 children) I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had access to the financials of every research scientist in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) OK so let me get this straight: You believe that the overwhelming majority of scientists with intimate knowledge of mRNA vaccine technology are ALL part of a conspiracy that involves them all accepting bribes from big pharma in order to lie about its safety? That's really just not how any of it works. Even if it did exist in any capacity, there's no possible way that it would be able to be kept secret with so many people involved, not to mention the fact that there are still scientists with integrity (I would say most of them, in actuality) who would blow the whistle immediately. I think you need to take a step back and try to take a critical look at the reasons why you would believe such a thing, and how you came to that conclusion. Because it has zero basis in reality, and the results of this kind of thinking literally leads to people (primarily children) dying or being otherwise impaired for life, for absolutely no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (9 children) The ones pharmaceutical reps give. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've got questions. So many questions. Edit: unsurprisingly, they had no answers. Do all scientists get universal bribe income (UBI) to hush up? Do they get bonus bribes when it's their turn to fabricate results? Holy shit, is this inadvertently the world's biggest UBI experiment? Who is being bribed not to release that data? How do these bribes work? Do they specifically bribe researchers and all members of their peer review committees? Do they bribe lab assistants to ignore reported findings incongruent with their observed lab results? How do these pharmaceutical reps keep other scientists from alerting the public after analyzing this fraudulent data or replicating similarly fraudulent experiments? There are over nine million full-time researchers employed in science R&D worldwide. Even with what must be at least a trillion dollars in annual bribes, someone's bound to get a little drunk and say too much. Why don't any of them or the tens of millions of support staff blow the whistle on the whole deal? permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (7 children) Research scientists aren't bribed by pharmaceutical companies. That's not a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (6 children) I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had access to the financials of every research scientist in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) OK so let me get this straight: You believe that the overwhelming majority of scientists with intimate knowledge of mRNA vaccine technology are ALL part of a conspiracy that involves them all accepting bribes from big pharma in order to lie about its safety? That's really just not how any of it works. Even if it did exist in any capacity, there's no possible way that it would be able to be kept secret with so many people involved, not to mention the fact that there are still scientists with integrity (I would say most of them, in actuality) who would blow the whistle immediately. I think you need to take a step back and try to take a critical look at the reasons why you would believe such a thing, and how you came to that conclusion. Because it has zero basis in reality, and the results of this kind of thinking literally leads to people (primarily children) dying or being otherwise impaired for life, for absolutely no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I've got questions. So many questions. Edit: unsurprisingly, they had no answers. Do all scientists get universal bribe income (UBI) to hush up? Do they get bonus bribes when it's their turn to fabricate results? Holy shit, is this inadvertently the world's biggest UBI experiment? Who is being bribed not to release that data? How do these bribes work? Do they specifically bribe researchers and all members of their peer review committees? Do they bribe lab assistants to ignore reported findings incongruent with their observed lab results? How do these pharmaceutical reps keep other scientists from alerting the public after analyzing this fraudulent data or replicating similarly fraudulent experiments? There are over nine million full-time researchers employed in science R&D worldwide. Even with what must be at least a trillion dollars in annual bribes, someone's bound to get a little drunk and say too much. Why don't any of them or the tens of millions of support staff blow the whistle on the whole deal? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (7 children) Research scientists aren't bribed by pharmaceutical companies. That's not a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (6 children) I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had access to the financials of every research scientist in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) OK so let me get this straight: You believe that the overwhelming majority of scientists with intimate knowledge of mRNA vaccine technology are ALL part of a conspiracy that involves them all accepting bribes from big pharma in order to lie about its safety? That's really just not how any of it works. Even if it did exist in any capacity, there's no possible way that it would be able to be kept secret with so many people involved, not to mention the fact that there are still scientists with integrity (I would say most of them, in actuality) who would blow the whistle immediately. I think you need to take a step back and try to take a critical look at the reasons why you would believe such a thing, and how you came to that conclusion. Because it has zero basis in reality, and the results of this kind of thinking literally leads to people (primarily children) dying or being otherwise impaired for life, for absolutely no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan -1 points 1 year ago (6 children) I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had access to the financials of every research scientist in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) OK so let me get this straight: You believe that the overwhelming majority of scientists with intimate knowledge of mRNA vaccine technology are ALL part of a conspiracy that involves them all accepting bribes from big pharma in order to lie about its safety? That's really just not how any of it works. Even if it did exist in any capacity, there's no possible way that it would be able to be kept secret with so many people involved, not to mention the fact that there are still scientists with integrity (I would say most of them, in actuality) who would blow the whistle immediately. I think you need to take a step back and try to take a critical look at the reasons why you would believe such a thing, and how you came to that conclusion. Because it has zero basis in reality, and the results of this kind of thinking literally leads to people (primarily children) dying or being otherwise impaired for life, for absolutely no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) OK so let me get this straight: You believe that the overwhelming majority of scientists with intimate knowledge of mRNA vaccine technology are ALL part of a conspiracy that involves them all accepting bribes from big pharma in order to lie about its safety? That's really just not how any of it works. Even if it did exist in any capacity, there's no possible way that it would be able to be kept secret with so many people involved, not to mention the fact that there are still scientists with integrity (I would say most of them, in actuality) who would blow the whistle immediately. I think you need to take a step back and try to take a critical look at the reasons why you would believe such a thing, and how you came to that conclusion. Because it has zero basis in reality, and the results of this kind of thinking literally leads to people (primarily children) dying or being otherwise impaired for life, for absolutely no reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) I never said any of that. You might want to work on your reading comprehension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) They're the most obvious implications for your bribery claims. If you had ever thought critically about what you believe, this would be immediately apparent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 year ago* (2 children) All I said was pharmaceutical companies bribe doctors and scientists. That's it, besides saying it's not a valid reason to distrust vaccines. Anything else you gleaned from that comment is you making assumptions based on nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'd say it's based on intimate knowledge of a field you obviously don't know much about. It's not our fault you're an ignorant idiot, so please consider keeping your stupidity to yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 point 1 year ago So you're seriously claiming that no research scientist in the US has ever accepted a bribe from a pharmaceutical company? Talk about stupidity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children) Ex-wife was an OR nurse. The drug company reps would hang around the hospital and take everyone out to party after work. They'd sling free samples by day, $1,000 bar/restaurant tabs at night, all expensed. And they made bank. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Yea... Those guys weren't selling vaccines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Moving goalposts? I was replying to: Those companies bribe doctors and scientists all the time. And I gave an example of them bribing doctors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, pointing out that no one is pushing vaxx for money. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You're splitting hairs. When I go to the doc who says, "Look. I took money for a different drug from a different company, not for vaccines from this company," I'm more than little disgusted. So I can give a little understanding to someone who doesn't have the scientific background like I do when they dismiss the whole system as corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Yeah. .. but they are the same companies selling them this is well documented permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Yea... Those guys weren't selling vaccines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Moving goalposts? I was replying to: Those companies bribe doctors and scientists all the time. And I gave an example of them bribing doctors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, pointing out that no one is pushing vaxx for money. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You're splitting hairs. When I go to the doc who says, "Look. I took money for a different drug from a different company, not for vaccines from this company," I'm more than little disgusted. So I can give a little understanding to someone who doesn't have the scientific background like I do when they dismiss the whole system as corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Yeah. .. but they are the same companies selling them this is well documented permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Moving goalposts? I was replying to: Those companies bribe doctors and scientists all the time. And I gave an example of them bribing doctors. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, pointing out that no one is pushing vaxx for money. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You're splitting hairs. When I go to the doc who says, "Look. I took money for a different drug from a different company, not for vaccines from this company," I'm more than little disgusted. So I can give a little understanding to someone who doesn't have the scientific background like I do when they dismiss the whole system as corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) No, pointing out that no one is pushing vaxx for money. Lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You're splitting hairs. When I go to the doc who says, "Look. I took money for a different drug from a different company, not for vaccines from this company," I'm more than little disgusted. So I can give a little understanding to someone who doesn't have the scientific background like I do when they dismiss the whole system as corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You're splitting hairs. When I go to the doc who says, "Look. I took money for a different drug from a different company, not for vaccines from this company," I'm more than little disgusted. So I can give a little understanding to someone who doesn't have the scientific background like I do when they dismiss the whole system as corrupt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago Yeah. .. but they are the same companies selling them this is well documented permalink fedilink source parent