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[+] -30 points 1 year ago (30 children)

yes those dirty brown people in south america can't do socialism right when its being sieged by the US!

how telling of mr. mamdani.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Didn't even bother to read the whole quote...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They're a Leninist. Hypocrisy is their super power. The only thing that maters to them is that he attacked the party/dictator. Which is the only unforgivable sin. Every problem with their governments is always somehow the West's fault. And they are infallible. Zero nuance or irony.

    Yes the US has a history of meddling in south America and blockading Cuba. And yes that's wrong. But blaming that for all their problems is ridiculous. The Cuban government imprisoning those sharing western media that makes it through the blockade etc. Isn't because of the blockade. It's because the government is authoritarian. And if those they control get narratives outside the governments approved ones. It makes them harder to control. It's why Western media narratives are suddenly starting to much closer mimic those of leninist and other dictatorial governments.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (21 children)
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    They're really trying to figure out reasons to dislike the guy. For some reason, the "leftists" on lemmy.ml hate when a left American politician starts achieving success, and try to tear them down and lie about what a terrible person they are. It's one of their favorite things; they relentlessly criticize AOC and Mamdani in a way they never would froth at the mouth about Chuck Schumer or anybody who is actually doing real damage.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Hey, how about Graham Platner's secret Nazi sympathies? We know he has them, because of the tattoo! I haven't heard that one for a while.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    A new one! What makes you say that he worked in Abu Ghraib? I did a quick search, and all I can find is a YouTube video by "BadEmpanada."

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What makes you say that he worked in Abu Ghraib?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Because pretty much everything he's advocating for is the exact opposite of fascism, and because we saw his Reddit comment history which he wasn't expecting to have exposed and there's no fascism in it and there is some anti-fascism. Some bad-faith mischaracterizations aside, there is literally no reason at all to think he's a fascist in any way, and a few different reasons to think he is the opposite of that.

    Anyway, what makes you say that he worked in Abu Ghraib? Or is it no particular reason, just "it is known"?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    my brother in christ, you mean the one where he acts like a homophobic fascist? and said he joined the fascist corps because he wanted to kill people?

    Can you point me to those comments? I've looked at his comment history yes. Maybe I missed these parts. It's pretty large so obviously everyone's going to pick their favorite part to present, but what I saw was him calling himself a communist, yelling at people who were excusing war crimes and talking about some of the fucked up stuff he saw in the military and how it radicalized him.

    look into the comments he made himself about abu ghraib.

    Which comments were those?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nah I don't like authoritarian simpers either but Platner is pretty sus

    Just 5 years ago he said he joined the marines because he:

    Wanted to have an adventure and kill some people. Joined up in ‘04, did Fallujah and Ramadi, and managed both. Hell of an excellent experience.

    Also he did definitely serve as a prison guard in Abu Ghraib and took part in suppressing people trying to liberate others from being imprisoned and tortured:

    Later, while he was on patrol at Abu Ghraib, there was an attack on the prison. (It was nearly two years after human-rights abuses were first reported at the prison; Platner was not involved.) “That was my first real taste of combat,” he said.

    Also he was calling everything bad "gay" and used "fags" as an insult as late as 2021 (oddly seems a bit closeted tbh but w/e)

    And look it's not like the Mothership PAC lover Jordan Woods will fight the oligarchy so this kinda leaves Janet Mills who isn't ideal but idk at least she didn't rejoice in killing brown people 🤷

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Okay, I do appreciate the actual sourcing. Now that we're looking into it, it doesn't say what you said it says.

    It says, "On patrol at Abu Ghraib." Abu Ghraib is a place as well as a prison. Was inside the prison, on patrol as a guard? Or outside it, on patrol as an infantryman in the place called Abu Ghraib? There is not enough from that single sentence to tell which of those it is. Why do you say that one sentence proves that he was a prison guard at Abu Ghraib? Why are the people freaking out about what a massive deal it is that he had a tattoo or other random character-assassination bullshit haven'd said anything other than that one sentence, about him being a full-on guard at Abu Ghraib and then never having said a word about it or any of the abuses he saw there?

    It could be that second thing. I'm just saying that just that one sentence doesn't mean to me that he was a prison guard there. There's a careful ambiguity about "on patrol at Abu Ghraib" and no followup.

    Also he was calling everything bad "gay" and used "fags" as an insult as late as 2021 (oddly seems a bit closeted tbh but w/e)

    He wasn't using "fags" as an insult in 2021, he was saying in 2021, “I like how our gay antics make him so uncomfortable he hates us. I’m doubling down on gay chicken next time in honor of this Air Force pussy.”

    He also said:

    He attributed his change in perspective to friendships with LGBTQ+ people, both gay and transgender, that deepened after he returned to Maine. “When I lived in Washington, D.C., I had a number of very close gay friends,” Platner said, with whom he often “attended showtunes night at JR’s,” a popular gay bar near Dupont Circle. “It was only later, when I moved back to Maine, that I became friends with a number of trans people, and that really opened my eyes.”

    “Even though I thought I was open-minded,” he continued, “there were elements to their existence that I had been entirely unaware of. That was when I began to really take far more seriously the damaging nature of language, the damaging nature of even just discussing whether people exist or not.”

    He said that realization led him to speak publicly in defense of LGBTQ+ students. “Earlier this year, I testified at a local school board meeting in defense of a policy that was protecting LGBTQ students,” he said. “For me, at this point in my life, you either stand for what you stand for or you don’t.”

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    you are at least aware venezuela and cuba are in the gutter because of US blockades, not their leadership, right?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    US blockades are responsible for their financial crises, not for them arresting journalists and dissenters. Also, the quote in the screenshot explicitly states that the US only made things worse.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    should we not arrest far-right traitors and criminals against humanity? i WISH they where shutting fascists up as hard as libs think they do.

    is that why you guys let trump run for president (and win) twice?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, we should. Never said anything against that. Also never let Trump run for president, as I am not American, nor am I a liberal.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    you are arguing like you are both. the last thing we need is more imperialist war, or any more cia talking points from unsuspecting libs.

    i understand why he would adopt the bothsides viewpoint, but it disgustingly hinges on the impending doom the us will bring to the venezuelan people with "maduro" and "democracy" as an obvious excuse. an old one at that.

    like they care about anything but oil and other natural resources. a "socialist" saying this precisely now is a red flag.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He literally says US interventionism hasn’t done any good. How are you interpreting this as him wanting to intervene in their affairs?
    You can criticize a government without wanting to overthrow them.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    while also implying they are not democracies in the first place.

    precisely at the crucial moment the US empire wants to invade them and make their life hell.

    theres his political support for invading them "for democracy"

    yes, fuck that imperialist pig.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    .ml shitbags begone. Rapist apologists.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel sorry for anyone on .ml personally. Their legacy of hate, division, and bootlicking is enormous. I think people sometimes join not realizing how toxic they are.

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