What was it that in 2015 had you doubting them already? The master plan was public at that point. That was the year they released the Model X - a pretty good year for them after some development hell. I definitely thought there was a lot to be excited about back then. Not invested, just excited about their cars and hoping for a model 3 in my near future. I'm fully off the wagon now of course, but they had a LOT of success 2015-2018, when that continued hard with the model 3.

Sure, but this time the USA isn't going to last another 10 years.

Ok, so some person on the internet is wrong and so there is no way that he, saying this at a vastly different time, will be right. Got it.