▲ 400 ▼ OpenAI says over a million people talk to ChatGPT about suicide weekly (techcrunch.com) submitted 1 year ago by cantankerous_cashew@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 132 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (10 children) Are you comparing a professional to a text generator? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (9 children) Have you ever had ineffective professional therapy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (8 children) Are you still trying to compare medical treatment with generating text? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago (7 children) Compare, as in equal? No. You can’t “game” a person (usually) like you can game an AI. Now, answer my question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, comparing as in comparing apples and oranges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (9 children) Have you ever had ineffective professional therapy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (8 children) Are you still trying to compare medical treatment with generating text? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago (7 children) Compare, as in equal? No. You can’t “game” a person (usually) like you can game an AI. Now, answer my question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, comparing as in comparing apples and oranges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (8 children) Are you still trying to compare medical treatment with generating text? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago (7 children) Compare, as in equal? No. You can’t “game” a person (usually) like you can game an AI. Now, answer my question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, comparing as in comparing apples and oranges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 year ago (7 children) Compare, as in equal? No. You can’t “game” a person (usually) like you can game an AI. Now, answer my question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, comparing as in comparing apples and oranges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) No, comparing as in comparing apples and oranges. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) Answer my question, or just admit you refuse to engage in conversation and we can depart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children) There is no conversation to be had here, because you have no point. A text generator is not someone you talk to, it's a thing that takes your input and then outputs the text that is most likely relevant to said input. No reasoning. No knowledge. Taking the example made in one of the other comments here, you could paint a face to a ball and keep yourself mentally stable on a desert island, but the ball isn't doing anything, there's only you on the island. Apply that to getting mental help from an LLM and you'll see how creepy it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) what you are describing is called a Markov chain, not a large language model. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago Totally another thing, since we are talking about language here. But feel free to join the other guy in talking to your screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whiwake@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s pretty difficult to prove my point when you refuse to have a conversation. What you want is to just get your dopamine by criticizing others instead of allowing them to argue their point. So you are right, there is no conversation to be had here because you are not willing to engage in a conversation. I wish you the best in your therapy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago I wish you the best in talking to the calculator. permalink fedilink source parent