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UFC Fighter Who Vowed To Take A Bullet For Trump Has Revelation (www.huffpost.com)
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“The first thing for me was he didn’t release the Epstein files. They’re even acting like they didn’t exist,” he said, before moving on to his other grievances. “And, of course, they’re sending Israel and Ukraine all of our tax dollars just like the numb-nuts before him did. Putting America last, and now he’s blaming the beef farmers for the price of beef.” Mitchell added, “Hey, I’m not biased, man. He talked a good game; he tricked me. I was fooled. I admit it.” "Yeah, I do think that Donald Trump is that beast of Revelation 13:3."

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[–] -2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Respectively, I don’t agree and I’ve had success in de radicalising 5 friends and family which I couldn’t do if I wrote them off as stupid.

Ignorant, sure. Stupid, no.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Have fun watching them continue to vote Republican in future elections when they fall for the next stupidly obvious thing.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Have fun assuming everybody is American.

    Also, for your lack of faith. I guess I wonder why you even comment on this stuff if your intention isn’t to change views then is it just ego stroking?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    You responded to a post about people falling for Trump rhetoric, so assuming you were as well is just working in the context of the thread. Insert far right if you can't wrap your head around context.

    It is acknowledging that de radicalizing someone stupid enough to fall for far right rhetoric isn't something that is a one and done deal. Extremely few people do more than kind of change their viewpoint on one or two topics and will easily slide back into the same mindset on new or even the same topics when exposed to more of the same.

    Saying you deradicalized a half dozen people is bragging that you got some children to settle down for an hour. It is extremely likely that they just say nice things in front of you to shut you up while continuing the same thing when you aren't watching.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I don’t agree. You’re essentially teaching people to question what they’re told and at least pause for thought before maybe sharing that misinformation online.

    If people are aware that the media is manipulating them and they’ve been shown concrete examples then it stands to reason that they will get better at this the more they do.

    Otherwise what’s the fucking point? Is just a circle jerk no?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    If people are aware that the media is manipulating them and they’ve been shown concrete examples then it stands to reason that they will get better at this the more they do.

    That isn't how it works when they were stupid enough to fall for it the first time.

    That isn't saying not to try, just pointing out that it is not something that you finished and deserves a pat yourself on the back for a job well done. It is step one in a lifelong effort if you don't want them to backslide right back into the same shit.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I’m not the one saying they’re stupid, because that in itself is pretty stupid imo.

    I’m saying they’re ignorant and that can be changed.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I am saying they are stupid.

    They are probably ignorant too. But if they listen to Trump speak and think "This guy is coherent and saying things that make sense" then they are stupid.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That’s the thing though. Most people are not as engaged as we are and they’re not really listening to people speak they’re listening to sound bites.

    Also, for clarity I am in the UK so we don’t have anyone quite as deplorable as Trump, but Farage says the same stuff he’s just a little more posh and eloquent.

    Perhaps, you mean to suggest it won’t work for your country where I see it working for people in my country.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    People are the same everywhere. It would be pretty ignorant to think otherwise.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If people are the same everywhere, then it would stand to reason that some of your political opponents have the ability to change their view, alas you have been saying that’s not the case.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Extremely few people do more than kind of change their viewpoint on one or two topics and will easily slide back into the same mindset on new or even the same topics when exposed to more of the same.

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