โฒ -2 โผ Oops the libs forgot about this part ๐ (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by jankforlife@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -4 points 1 year ago (5 children) So they are barred from travel via plane because of NK decisions on airlines, and not banned from travel via other means (if we forget about frontier guards and all, ofc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Because they could have airlines if they accepted foreigns workers. That part os the NK government decision, good or bad. Let be clear : economic isolation of NK is a ofc product of both NK politics and UN embargos. But freedom of travel is not directly affected by UN. The first thing that stops NK people to travel is a border with armed guards, including with friendly states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) From what i know , it is not easy at all to neither go to China, neither "defect" there, neither defect from authoritarian communist countries nearby. What you 'showed' me is people working in China, so controlled travel. Based on what i know, i take your affirmation that it is easy to defect frop China either as ignorance, either as propaganda. If you have good info on the traveling part, please share so i and others can learn. On the original matter, i think it's not worth debating further if we do not share a same-ish perception of facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [โ] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Cowbee has decided on a narrative and you can't change his mind! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -4 points 1 year ago (5 children) So they are barred from travel via plane because of NK decisions on airlines, and not banned from travel via other means (if we forget about frontier guards and all, ofc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Because they could have airlines if they accepted foreigns workers. That part os the NK government decision, good or bad. Let be clear : economic isolation of NK is a ofc product of both NK politics and UN embargos. But freedom of travel is not directly affected by UN. The first thing that stops NK people to travel is a border with armed guards, including with friendly states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) From what i know , it is not easy at all to neither go to China, neither "defect" there, neither defect from authoritarian communist countries nearby. What you 'showed' me is people working in China, so controlled travel. Based on what i know, i take your affirmation that it is easy to defect frop China either as ignorance, either as propaganda. If you have good info on the traveling part, please share so i and others can learn. On the original matter, i think it's not worth debating further if we do not share a same-ish perception of facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [โ] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Cowbee has decided on a narrative and you can't change his mind! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Because they could have airlines if they accepted foreigns workers. That part os the NK government decision, good or bad. Let be clear : economic isolation of NK is a ofc product of both NK politics and UN embargos. But freedom of travel is not directly affected by UN. The first thing that stops NK people to travel is a border with armed guards, including with friendly states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) From what i know , it is not easy at all to neither go to China, neither "defect" there, neither defect from authoritarian communist countries nearby. What you 'showed' me is people working in China, so controlled travel. Based on what i know, i take your affirmation that it is easy to defect frop China either as ignorance, either as propaganda. If you have good info on the traveling part, please share so i and others can learn. On the original matter, i think it's not worth debating further if we do not share a same-ish perception of facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [โ] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Cowbee has decided on a narrative and you can't change his mind! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr -3 points 1 year ago (4 children) Because they could have airlines if they accepted foreigns workers. That part os the NK government decision, good or bad. Let be clear : economic isolation of NK is a ofc product of both NK politics and UN embargos. But freedom of travel is not directly affected by UN. The first thing that stops NK people to travel is a border with armed guards, including with friendly states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) From what i know , it is not easy at all to neither go to China, neither "defect" there, neither defect from authoritarian communist countries nearby. What you 'showed' me is people working in China, so controlled travel. Based on what i know, i take your affirmation that it is easy to defect frop China either as ignorance, either as propaganda. If you have good info on the traveling part, please share so i and others can learn. On the original matter, i think it's not worth debating further if we do not share a same-ish perception of facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [โ] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Cowbee has decided on a narrative and you can't change his mind! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) From what i know , it is not easy at all to neither go to China, neither "defect" there, neither defect from authoritarian communist countries nearby. What you 'showed' me is people working in China, so controlled travel. Based on what i know, i take your affirmation that it is easy to defect frop China either as ignorance, either as propaganda. If you have good info on the traveling part, please share so i and others can learn. On the original matter, i think it's not worth debating further if we do not share a same-ish perception of facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) From what i know , it is not easy at all to neither go to China, neither "defect" there, neither defect from authoritarian communist countries nearby. What you 'showed' me is people working in China, so controlled travel. Based on what i know, i take your affirmation that it is easy to defect frop China either as ignorance, either as propaganda. If you have good info on the traveling part, please share so i and others can learn. On the original matter, i think it's not worth debating further if we do not share a same-ish perception of facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most defectors go through China == it is easier to cross the border / defect in China != it is easy to cross the border to China / defect in China permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 0 points 1 year ago Yes permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Cowbee has decided on a narrative and you can't change his mind! permalink fedilink source parent