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Heartbroken to learn the Pope sympathizes with the poor ๐Ÿ’” (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[โ€“] 101 points 1 year ago (28 children)

If only Hell existed and if only it all wasn't a ruse to placate people in to accepting their poor lot in life so the rich can continue to not be eaten by the poor.

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  • [โ€“] 19 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    It's a state of mind, according to Jesus (Luke 17:21).

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's weird that state of mind includes burning hellfire

    Mark 9:43

    If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than to have two hands and to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Metaphor, allegory, analogy. Matthew 13:10 otherwise you could end up in prison, dead, or exiled. Oh look, we've come full circle.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Who gets to determine which ones are allegory and which are literal?

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  • [โ€“] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Well rich people demonstrably have better mental health as far as happiness than those struggling to pay bills or in even worse situations... So... Kinda' a distinction without a point.

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Do POTUS, Musk, Thiel, Yarvin SEEM happy or healthy to you?

    Epstein or Max? How about the girls on the island? Go look at photos.

    Now consider social media influencers. The little boy that is in the iconic photo hugging the cop.

    Now consider what we know beyond the way it looks.

    There's persona and personality. They are not the same things.

    Can wealthy people be happy and healthy? Maybe, if they're actually good people and never look too deeply at the family wealth, or if they're not too developed, in certain ways.

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  • [โ€“] -2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Congratulations, you've utterly and completely missed the point about how money creates ample room for happiness. Whereas not having money creates stress and awful situations.

    Again, congratulations on completely and utterly missing the point.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    AFAIK you're kinda wrong about that. Research suggests that money improves happiness only to a certain point. Once you got the basic meets met it doesn't really matter anymore.

    People in poorer countries often live happier lives compared to those in rich ones.

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  • [โ€“] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah because I'm living a completely lux life. ๐Ÿ™„ I'm angry but not bitter or depressed anymore.

    Eta: in fact, despite my personal challenges, I'm pretty mentally healthy and decently happy, most of the time. I have my moments but they're not consuming me. I quit playing the victim card and started playing the victim victory hand.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sometimes I have a bad premonition that all of the cosmos is a giant hell for the old ones to relentlessly and perpetually torture, kill, and reincarnate the souls whose emotional and physical suffering are what sustain said elder extra-dimensional deities.

    No lives matter, and that's a fact.

    • Cthulhu
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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago

    The Cathars were a sect of Christianity that (at least some sects) believed God was the bad guy and mortal existence was actually punishment or otherwise bad, too.

    I'm sure you can guess what happened to them.

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  • [+] -19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Thank you r/atheism.

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  • [โ€“] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If not believing in contradictory lies, corrupted parable, and a confused version of history people mistake for philosophy is edgy, you must live a very boring life.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just because there exists people who don't think like you doesn't mean they live a boring life. That's a bit mean to assume, isn't it?

    I believe there is a wisdom in many of the books people find holy. I'm also an atheist. I believe in the void of nothingness as the ultimate reality. I'm also a theist. I believe in higher powers spanning dimensions.

    Nothing needs to be so small or simple as binary coded, but maybe everything can be? We all enjoy the game of this or that, in or out, true or false, but that sounds incredibly boring to me. So I don't play it. It's more fun to be anything we want.

    I am both a believer in nothing and a believer in everything. It may appear as a contradiction, because it is. It also isn't. It is completely internally consistent and orderly but it's also pure beautiful chaos.

    Just because people misunderstand things and take bad actions doesn't mean the thing itself isn't still useful. We don't completely understand our own bodies yet they continue to function in spite of our understanding.

    Navigating a wilderness without a compass is a difficult thing. We all have a compass inside of us. I hope that everyone everywhere will find it.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago*

    My comment is not about EVERY religous person. Just the pearl-clutching weirdos who get offended at hearing atheists exist and don't believe.

    Sure, there is some wisdom, but it's buried in mistranslation and mixed with recorded history that's also been through the mistranslation process.

    I have no respect for people who think they have greater knowledge by misinterpreting and projecting their feelings on to such corrupted text.

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  • [โ€“] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Imagine encountering an atheist in the atheistmemes community.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I was wondering why people were being so harsh about Pope Leo in the comments! I came from the front page too and didn't notice. Not that their criticisms are unfair by any means.

    Even so, let's not forget that the Pope wields an untold amount of influence over the first world at any given time, so it's not necessary to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Could he be doing more? Undoubtedly. But speaking out is the first step, and he's been rather vocal with his core values and condemning this sort of tyranny and hatred.

    I think that makes a lasting impact too. Especially when it's causing this many MAGA sociopaths to "mask off" the fact that they were never in support of certain policies because of god or their religion or whathaveyou. It was an excuse, to hurt queer people, to oppress minorities. And others, especially younger folk raised in those bible belt regions, will begin to see the hypocrisy more clearly.

    So let's not be so quick to demonize him just yet. MAGA's already got that covered.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 1 year ago

    Their perception of god is different, doesn't mean they don't believe in the rightness of what they're doing. keep in mind that the vast majority of christian thought and scriptures support shit like slavery and women being little better off than the foreign slaves.

    The only reason Jesus wasn't a white supremacist was that he wasn't white.

    The Christians who happen to be good people are good people in spite of, not because of, their religion.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 1 year ago

    I don't think youre seeing the whole picture.

    "Ancient control society does one none evil thing with that cintrol" is not a reason to forget or forgive the actions of the catholic Church against women, indigenous people and queer people over the centuries. Until the religion is overhauled to remove the bad parts, we can, must and should criticise it.

    I also thing you overstate the influence the pope has over American Christians.

    Evangelicals and other protestants are trained to view the pope as at best mistaken, at worst a literal agent of the devil.

    Perhaps he might reach some, or some Catholics, but any Christian who comes to dislike hypocrisy or love truth will cease to be a Christian.

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