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[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not really a universal truth, Leftists hold a wide range of views on liberalism.

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[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not on here it doesn't seem. On here a liberal to them is chuck Schumer or other neoliberals(neo being the keyword here). They think liberalism is about protecting capital. I would argue that socialism can be very liberal if we're going with the traditional meaning of the word.

But what really bothers me about it is it feels like a wedge issue created to drive the two groups apart, and it seems to work on people that I KNOW are smarter than that. But I guess we liberals thought that about Maga as well

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Liberalism: A Counter History is free on Annie's Archive, it goes through all the major liberal philosophers and how they defined liberalism when confronted with various contradictions.

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[–] recycle_me_please@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago*

I'd argue you don't know what Liberalism is.

John Locke was all about private property and individual ownership of the means of production. Liberalism is tied to capitalism from it's origin.

It's comparable to AnComs and being in favor of personal liberties, they're still right wingers at their core.

The warped American notion of liberalism as an analogue for left or progressive is not the norm globally, and certainly not the origin of the word or how we all see it applied in the states.

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