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Chicago fighting ICE (kolektiva.social)
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[–] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

get people to cover for you and wear a mask then knife their tires and run away on a bike or anything. people have to fight back

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    You don't knife tires to fight back against ICE.

    ICE is the symptom, not the disease. If ICE was a persistent cough, knifing tires is treating it with Robitussin. Except that this particular cough is caused by tuberculosis, and the Robitussin will just make you feel better. While you die.

    You need to treat the disease, not the symptom. To fight back against ICE, barbecue a billionaire.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That doesn't stop someone's friend from being kidnapped.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You are wrong.

    Eating enough rich people stops everyone's friends from being kidnapped.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Taking small bites and chewing thoroughly is wise, regardless if the target "food" is a pile of hotdogs, an airplane, or the 1%... Don't judge others for the size of their chosen forkful. Let's keep our eyes on our own plates and we'll all be through this deluge of shit sooner. 🤌🏼

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I will absolutely judge people for their wasted, wasteful, and futile efforts. Trying to target ICE agents just ensures you'll be locked up or dead. You won't stop any immigration action. You won't spare a single victim from being persecuted. You'll just serve as a warning to everyone else not to resist.

    If you're choosing violence, choose an effective target.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Edit: You're making a false dichotomy out of this, seemingly out of bad faith.

    Your analogy is broken in just about every way imaginable as treating the symptoms is often done in conjunction with treating the disease.

    Why? Often treating the symptoms is a life-saving measure in the short-term while treating the disease is a long-term solution. Done simultaneously. In cases where symptoms are not life-threatening it is still treated for comfort and ability to function.

    Both have to happen simultaneously.

    If all you do is sit back and try and fight the big problem and you don't tackle the little problems eating away at the fabric under you. Eventually there won't be any more fabric to stand on to fight the big problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Nothing good comes from antagonizing ICE directly. You will not stop a single person from being kidnapped by confronting ICE directly. They'll just go back and get more funding, more manpower, more resources, more militarization, and more and more people will be kidnapped. So it's not really like treating the cough with Robitussin. It's more like treating it with cocaine. Or asbestos.

    If "Slashing Tires" is your level of commitment, you're better off slashing the tires of a random millionaire. Instead of ICE demanding more resources for their operations, that millionaire will demand resources be diverted to protecting their cars instead of abducting people. Meanwhile, we all cheer every time we read about a 1% being targeted.

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