Rhaedas comments on "Fuck Nazis" - the all-uniting cry

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US was playing the isolationist card until we got brought into the mess personally, but isn't that usually how things are? Didn't Canada go early on because they were part of the Empire still? The US was still needed even if it was late to the party, Churchill himself hinted in his Fight on the Beaches speech about "until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

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[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Didn't Canada go early on because they were part of the Empire still?

That was a true for the first world war but Canada entered the second world war as an independent nation.

And yeah, like the US helped a lot but that's mostly because they walked in at the end with a fresh army after everyone else had years of fighting. It's very American exceptionalist to narrow the "victors" of WW2 down to the UK, the USA and the Soviet Union.

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago*

The USA played an outsized role in propping the Soviets and British when they were getting curb stomped.

The Soviets played an outsized role fighting the Germans in the east and tying them up and grinding them down.

America played an outsized role in the war in the Pacific and helped the allies win the war in Europe. The pacific was our war, Europe was just a theater.

It’s hard to say the Soviets could have won if the USA hadn’t helped the allies open another front in Europe, but it’s also impossible to say they couldn’t have. Maybe in the absence of lend lease their territory would have been large enough to get themselves off the floor on their own. Who knows. It’s all hypothetical.

They all played their role. Nobody did any of it single handedly.

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