(regarding Drew DeVault's opinion piece on Hyprland and its conservative/fascist dev and toxic community)

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[–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (39 children)

@H4rdStyl3z what's wrong on being a centrist?Also, at least the admins also show their true face.(edited the comment for clarity, lol)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Neutrality always supports the status quo.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    You must either be Left or Right. The Left will decide which one you are.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Well, rightoids are known for claiming to be centrists, claiming to be libertarians, claiming that rightism is "default and apolitical", etc and so forth.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    And Lefties are known for saying anyone who thinks you should be able to contract someone to do a job for you for an agreed upon payment is a fascist.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    *there are only two ideologies

    mine and nazis

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    I avoid labelling myself as I don't think it does any good.

    But gun to the head, I'd have to say I'm an environmentalist with a touch of social ecology. Though I avoid calling myself a social ecologist because it can be affiliated with violence, and I'm not opposed to governments.

    Socially, I care most about freedom, expression and democracy.

    What about yourself?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Ah, alright. The mod of a nazi bar¹ highly politicized community² doesn't like labels and then strategically formulates the most broad and empty perspective about their own ideological thought, one can come up with. I applaud the skill³ you excercise.

    What about yourself?

    Let me try one like that, but from my perspective:

    I avoid labelling myself as I don’t think it does any good.

    But gun to the head, I’d have to say I’m also somewhat of an environmentalist, but actually more of a humanist with a touch of economic analysis. Though I avoid calling myself an economic analyst because it can be affiliated with radicalism, and I’m not opposed to democratic institutions.

    Socially, I care most about justice, liberation and human dignity.

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    1. Nazi Bar: A space in which bigots or extremists have come to dominate due to a lack of moderation or by moderators wishing to remain neutral or avoid conflict.
    2. A community, that bases its entire means of existence on the labeling of the political other.
    3. Blame-avoidance and the refusal to clearly label one’s views are common tactics used by individuals — especially those holding controversial, minority, or potentially stigmatized positions, but also by politicians seeking to broaden their appeal or evade direct critique.
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    lol i think you're mad because i didn't fit into your preconceived notions and your whole dialogue tree is ruined

    also if this is a nazi bar, why are you here?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    a. If you think I'm a nazi in a bar, that's not a nazi bar: why am I still here, bartender?

    b. If you think I'm not a nazi, but in a nazi bar, the real question would be: what are you doing here, bartender?

    i think you're mad because i didn't fit into your preconceived notions and your whole dialogue tree is ruined

    Lol ya, big ass gotcha, haha. Why you think my notion is preconceived? I'm working with what you give me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    well why else are you so mad?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm mad, because you are an enabler of fascist narratives, counterfactuality and hate speech.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    See: nazi bar, and you being the bartender.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why does this feel like a reference to a specific example you're not explaining?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    And their true face is fucking ugly.

    Who can support the horrid state of things. Give me a progressive over a centrist any day.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    By centrist, I mean either centre-left or centre-right, not fully centrist. I understand that being a pure centrist is pretty much impossible, but sliding into authoritarianism is the worst thing that can happen (and it's already happening around the world tbh). Both far-left and far-right have shown they only have repression in mind, and they all benefit the elites instead of the public. There's nothing perfect in either political system, but at least the centrist forces do allow some criticism if it means it will make things better imo.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And yet in the US at least, extremism won out over the centrist option, I would argue, because the centrist option was TOO centrist, and people were sick of it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    @Reverendender This is what happens when you only provide two options on the ballot - the left and the right (not to mention the president is also the executive). In much of the rest of the democratic world, systems allow for the existence of multiple political parties, so that people have where to choose from. Usually, no single party holds the majority, so forces have to form coalitions in order to form a government. This has the effect of a better representation, as extremist views are usually held only by a small minority of a population (see for example the coalition in the EU Parliament, which is leaving the far-right political families on the side).There is a flip-side to it, indeed, where a situation like the one in France can occur - where the parliament is almost evenly split between the political groups - i.e. the center, the left and the far right. This could lead to political crises, as it makes coalition negotiations harder, but I think it is still a better outcome than having the far-right get in full control of the government.The US political system was thought out in a way to keep extremist forces away from the mainstream, which was a good intention, but the architects of this system didn't think about the possibility of at least one of these political forces (i.e. the right in this case) to slide into authoritarianism and extremism.I saw some opinions on the internet about the fact that there are still some Republicans who do not agree with the MAGA movement, but they're pretty much unable to do anything - MAGA has closed the ranks in the entire GOP leadership and at this point it is pretty much impossible to overthrow it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Anarchism is a far left movement and it is very much the opposite of repression or benefiting the elite instead of the public.

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    That's not what centrism means, but yeah, I'm not happy about that. The corrupt political class of ours has all the means to make billions anyway from mismanaging our taxes, so sending weapons or not does little in this regard.

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    We are one of the country that recognizes Palestine though. And our communist dictator maintained good relations with both Israel and the Palestinian Authority. They could have easily said that we're no longer recognizing Palestine and be done with it.

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    Everyone let the genocide happen. We simply had more pressing issues in our proximity.

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    I'm not German, I am Romanian. Yes, there appears to be one batch of shipment to Israel, but that's about it (at least so far).Our defense industry lies almost dead and buried, so there's nothing to produce to begin with. And that is with another 3-year-old war at our borders.What you could say about us is that we still keep our relationship with Elbit (the company that owns the factories the hardware was sent from) but that's about all the military relationship we have with that genocidal state.And no, we did not make out of this (maybe Elbit did). Our current government struggles to reduce the fiscal deficit by increasing taxes, cutting spending where it's needed the most (like from education and culture), while keeping privileges for judges and other magistrates who have the ability to retire at 47 years old with pensions 10 times higher than the one of the average folk. That's pretty much where the billions are coming from, rn. So if there is any billion that might have come to my country since Israel invaded Gaza, I personally didn't feel the difference. Quite the contrary, I finish the month with less money than before this year.I hope that makes the picture more clear.

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